192 The Dirty Garden Hoes Show - May Shop Talk

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Transcript

Rhonda
Everybody, like it's been a while, huh?

00:12.54
Annette
and I know, right?

00:16.40
Rhonda
It's been a little of looking for hectic and depressing with all the bad weather.

00:22.91
Annette
Yes.

00:28.48
Annette
Oh, what have you had?

00:30.43
Rhonda
Well, I shouldn't have said it that way. It's just been rainy here, a lot of rain, few thunderstorms, but the storms that just keep going across the whole country, ah that's depressing to have to see that constantly.

00:46.07
Rhonda
A lot of people that I work with are in some of those areas.

00:46.61
Annette
Oh,

00:49.75
Rhonda
um sure I'm sure Missy probably, have have you had to deal with any of that?

00:49.87
Annette
okay.

00:57.05
Annette
Uh, we've had rainstorm come up suddenly, but nothing serious yet.

00:57.19
Missy
which

01:03.70
Missy
And I think ah in my area, I've had a couple of thunderstorms rip through with some hail, but at the same time frame, I'm not really upset because I've been busy as well. I'm moving seedlings and stuff to into pots and putting them out, and i appreciate the rain, so I don't have to get out there and water every day.

01:21.24
Annette
Mm-hmm.

01:22.20
Rhonda
ah That's a good point. we We haven't moved anything outside yet. We have some things sitting outside in pots getting, I guess, hardened to put in the ground.

01:33.72
Rhonda
um And I did fill up a bunch of buckets with dirt. And today i went picked out all the little plants I'm going to put in those buckets. So I hope to have that done soon. I'll send some pictures.

01:45.23
Missy
I would love to see that.

01:46.08
Rhonda
So both of y'all, I've seen your stuff on Facebook, both of you, and it looks amazing.

01:47.08
Annette
saying

01:53.12
Annette
I think I need an intervention.

01:53.18
Missy
I don't think yeah

01:55.57
Rhonda
Yeah.

01:55.75
Missy
I don't think mine's doing as good as they did last year, but I'm really impressed that I've been able to do a lot of things like cilantro and dill and those type things from seed. um They've done extremely well. Had a couple salads I've already been able to take from the garden.

02:12.10
Missy
And I had family in um in the last couple of weeks, and it was really nice to be able to take cilantro and dill and arugula and lettuce and stuff from the garden for that to be used in mills.

02:12.95
Annette
Oh, wow.

02:24.82
Rhonda
That's awesome.

02:25.84
Annette
That's amazing.

02:28.39
Rhonda
And I think it's awesome when the kids get to see you eat your harvest.

02:32.70
Annette
Mm-hmm.

02:33.30
Rhonda
Eat your hard work.

02:33.57
Jeremy
Well, that's that's been fun because I've had the grandbabies over here a lot, and that's a big thing every day is going out and checking the plants and being able to pick strawberries and then rinsing them off and eating them automatically and wanting to help to put some plants, plant plants.

02:50.39
Jeremy
And that's always fun. And of course, they like to help water the garden because that means that they get watered too.

02:55.87
Rhonda
i

03:00.26
Rhonda
I saw you had some buckets too, Annette.

03:03.72
Annette
Yes, I've gotten a little carried away. i got lettuce, squash, strawberries. ah Missy inspired me to do the okra.

03:15.15
Annette
um Green beans. I've started green beans in the strawberry containers. Missy inspired me on that one too. But lots of stuffing buckets as we're preparing our raised garden bed. I've got to lay down two more rolls of the above ground cover.

03:31.67
Annette
And then my husband's going to work on making the boxes for us to do above ground, raised bed gardening.

03:39.13
Rhonda
Do you know how deep he's going to make it?

03:42.25
Annette
Um, I told him I wanted it to where I didn't have to bend a lot. So probably four feet tall, perhaps.

03:50.68
Rhonda
okay. Okay.

03:51.65
Annette
And then what I do, i layer, I do the cardboard and then the sticks and the leaves layer method. And then that can compost naturally. Then you don't have to use a whole lot of soil on top of it.

04:08.06
Rhonda
Right. I did that some last time in our corrugated metal raised beds. We put sticks in the bottom, like you said, and that way we didn't use as much dirt.

04:17.86
Annette
a

04:20.88
Rhonda
But ah think I did too much because it ended up to where some of the root vegetables like um radishes and carrots, they they don't think they had enough soil to, you know, to grow properly.

04:39.70
Rhonda
It wasn't deep enough.

04:40.16
Annette
I guess I'll find out.

04:42.41
Rhonda
Well, I think it needed about at least a foot of dirt.

04:42.87
Annette
ah

04:45.85
Rhonda
And I think, I think ours was just too shallow, but you know, we also didn't have a lot of dirt to work with last year.

04:49.45
Annette
I i think I've allowed about a foot of dirt on mine. I've tried to, so we're going to find out. It's either going to work or be an epic flop, but we'll update.

05:04.40
Jeremy
And i I've got a combination this year. i don't just have buckets. I also have raised beds and i have ah rows.

05:10.68
Rhonda
Uh-huh.

05:13.24
Jeremy
I did get Jeremy to go and get me a huge truckload, a very large st truckload of dirt. And I have been using that. i made some rows. I've got pumpkins already and I've harden those, put those on the ground and they're doing terrific and my watermelons.

05:31.01
Jeremy
And um so my, my raised beds pretty much have potatoes and I continue to add more dirt to those as they grow.

05:37.47
Annette
Hmm.

05:39.87
Jeremy
And then my other compost pile, um I just actually threw some watermelon seeds and stuff in there. It's got all kinds of stuff. I saw tomatoes, there's potatoes and there's watermelons and I'm waiting to see what else is going to come up in that one.

05:54.07
Jeremy
um But it is a combination. But I will say what's been really good with the buckets is um as we've had fluctuations this year and temperatures being extremely high and then very low, it was nice to be able to, you know, put them out in the sun for a little bit and then stick them in the greenhouse in the evening or for a day or so if it needed it before I could bring it back out when the weather got better.

06:06.21
Annette
oh

06:15.54
Jeremy
ah So that was really a a nice thing and ah and a good workout, good way to get your steps in and, you know, kind of work on your triceps and biceps carrying those those buckets across the yard.

06:25.12
Annette
yeah

06:27.12
Rhonda
Yeah, I guess when the plants get taller, you can't really use the handles.

06:31.34
Jeremy
No, not not at this point.

06:31.62
Rhonda
yeah You have to pick them up.

06:32.98
Jeremy
that

06:33.54
Rhonda
Yeah.

06:33.92
Jeremy
They're in place now. I think we're in a good, um i know we did have temperatures dip down a couple of nights ago, but I think now we're back up to regular temperatures. It was in the upper 80s today, um so I don't think we're going to see too much more severe weather with the huge temperature dips.

06:45.07
Annette
Yeah.

06:52.09
Annette
So Missy, what kind of space do you need for a watermelon and pumpkin, like the ground items that take up a lot of ground?

06:52.43
Rhonda
Right.

07:02.21
Jeremy
I really just did I know this sounds weird, but Jeremy's been gone for a couple of weeks, so I've been doing the majority of the work myself. And I just made rows of dirt, and um I would make them about eight inches tall and about a bucket's width between each of the rows.

07:24.18
Jeremy
um And that's what I moved my pumpkins and stuff in into. And I would say they're probably about 12 inches apart. I know they're going to vine and crawl all over the place and that's fine.

07:35.25
Jeremy
um I just, I think I want to try this this year because I was trying vertical last year and the vertical did not do so well for us.

07:43.22
Annette
Mm-hmm.

07:45.65
Annette
I'd love to grow watermelon. I can make a meal off of that. I love watermelon.

07:50.49
Jeremy
I would have loved to have made a i would have loved to made a meal off of it.

07:50.57
Rhonda
We're going to give it a shot.

07:54.40
Jeremy
Unfortunately, I found out my dogs really like watermelon.

07:55.29
Annette
ha Ha ha

07:57.17
Jeremy
And so as quickly as they were getting ripe, they were going and eating them, the entire watermelon, rind and all.

07:57.36
Rhonda
Oh.

08:01.76
Annette
ha!

08:02.36
Rhonda
oh

08:04.71
Jeremy
i did manage to I did manage to keep some seeds.

08:04.89
Rhonda
Wow.

08:07.49
Jeremy
And a lot of the watermelons I had last year were like the their baby watermelons. so maybe the size of a soccer ball would be about as big as they were going to get. And it was, you know, in mind for having my granddaughters out a way they could have their whole little watermelon.

08:22.67
Jeremy
Yeah, but the dog got to them before we did.

08:26.01
Annette
Oh, wow.

08:26.29
Rhonda
Wow. That's the first time I've ever heard of a dog eating watermelons.

08:30.54
Jeremy
So we'll see what the season holds.

08:31.11
Rhonda
Sorry, I was worried about my chickens. going to worry about my dogs too.

08:37.34
Rhonda
Have you had ah Go ahead.

08:37.69
Jeremy
Yeah. And as I say, I wonder if I've got any pictures I'll have to send it. But yeah, it was rather interesting to see that and just try to to capture the seed to be able to plant again this year.

08:52.25
Rhonda
Well, um...

08:52.51
Annette
I hadn't did that.

08:56.29
Rhonda
I don't know if y'all saw, but Saturday is ah National Naked Gardening Day. gosh. Oh, gosh.

09:08.12
Annette
ah

09:09.39
Jeremy
I'm sure my neighbors would like that.

09:09.56
Annette
I'll participate in spirit.

09:11.50
Jeremy
Yeah. The city has moved to me and I don't think my neighbors would appreciate it Matter of fact, I've got a bar restaurant pretty much in my side yard now. um And it's called the Twisted Grape.

09:22.23
Rhonda
oh gosh

09:24.34
Jeremy
And that would be really funny going, hey, we go to the Twisted Grape so we can watch Naked Gardeners next door.

09:30.80
Rhonda
ah

09:31.80
Annette
so we're on earth.

09:31.84
Jeremy
That's probably as bad as me riding my riding lawn mower in a bathing suit drinking like you know a Corona or a Bud Light or something during the summer.

09:43.27
Rhonda
Well, I thought it sounded pretty cool, and then I remembered how bad the ticks are out here.

09:43.44
Annette
ah So, ah so

09:47.03
Rhonda
So, yeah, that's a no for me.

09:51.30
Annette
but how did that start, I wonder?

09:54.68
Rhonda
ah You know, I don't know, but there's a...

09:56.36
Annette
I would love to know where that came from. I think that would be a good idea.

10:04.94
Rhonda
I might have to look that up now. Okay.

10:07.66
Annette
Over here, I wouldn't dare try it, even if I could, because all the ant hills.

10:12.70
Rhonda
Well, I thought when we moved out here, ah ah don't, um I'm pretty modest, you know, out in public.

10:12.97
Jeremy
Thank

10:18.82
Rhonda
And I thought, well, we're going to live in the country. I can wear whatever I want to ah or not. But there's, you know, you really never know when the UPS guy's coming up the driveway. So ah

10:32.01
Annette
That would be something to explain.

10:33.00
Rhonda
um can't really, can't really do everything I thought I was going to do.

10:34.35
Annette
man.

10:36.01
Rhonda
Yeah.

10:36.48
Jeremy
Well, you know, back in my my youth, it wouldn't have been a problem, but I'm at that age now where I don't have a chest. I have a chest in my drawers, like a chest of drawers.

10:43.83
Annette
Oh.

10:44.81
Jeremy
was

10:46.59
Annette
oh

10:47.33
Rhonda
ah

10:47.90
Jeremy
And I think I might have a little bit of a Dunlap, too, Dunlap over my belt.

10:53.35
Rhonda
ah

10:54.23
Annette
oh

10:55.01
Rhonda
I definitely have both those.

11:00.68
Annette
Well, we'll see.

11:03.35
Rhonda
We have, we've kind of marked off an area for the, that we're going to call the garden area. ah My chickens have been jumping up in my potted plants and just scratching them um and digging them out.

11:15.67
Annette
Yeah.

11:18.52
Rhonda
and They're like all over the ground.

11:20.98
Annette
Have you got any netting?

11:21.16
Rhonda
and

11:21.27
Jeremy
Yeah.

11:23.66
Rhonda
We're going to put, yeah i think we do have one more net that he used over the like over the chicken run. We have another one of those.

11:33.81
Annette
Yeah, I had to do the same thing because mine thought, oh, dirt bath.

11:35.97
Rhonda
like ah Yeah.

11:39.29
Annette
And I'm like, oh, no, you don't. I saw them in there and I was running outside. Get out the plants. But yeah, I had to knit my.

11:46.40
Rhonda
That's what I did. like

11:49.49
Rhonda
Sorry, I keep cutting you off.

11:51.13
Annette
No, you're fine. I was done. Yeah.

11:55.21
Rhonda
I had to a chase them out of pots out front the other day. I bought some flowers. actually paid for some. That's what made me mad. And i ended up getting rocks and just putting rocks all in the pot, at you know, over the top of the dirt. That way they're not tempted.

12:13.49
Rhonda
But we're going to fence off the little garden area with, and I guess it's called sheep fencing or something, a small garden. I don't know. It's like two, three by four square wire fencing. I don't know what to call it.

12:30.74
Annette
Okay.

12:31.38
Rhonda
We have some rolls of that. We're going to fence it off so the chickens can't get in there.

12:37.72
Annette
They are destructive. They give zero craps about your hard work.

12:43.69
Rhonda
Are you still thinking about getting chickens, Missy?

12:46.84
Jeremy
I am. a Matter of fact, my daughter's in-laws, i she provided all her chickens to them when she relocated, and they had some brooders and stuff that they wanted to give us, but we don't have the chicken house built yet.

13:00.92
Jeremy
um i They're out there right now building and a big playset for the grandbabies, and I'm thinking about taking the old one and just putting chicken wire over it to start with and to give me something. um But right now, obviously, i don't have chickens. I don't have to worry about that, but I have to worry about the squirrels.

13:19.59
Jeremy
I've got a lot of squirrels, and it's interesting because they taunt the dogs.

13:20.62
Rhonda
Yeah.

13:20.94
Annette
I don't know.

13:25.08
Jeremy
um The dogs I have... I have French doors that have the blinds in between the glass. And so first thing in the morning, I like to pull those up and let the light in. And when the dogs see the squirrels and i open the door and they take off after them this is like a daily thing. And then once I bring the dogs back in, it's like the squirrels make their way to the porch in front of the door going, na, na, na, you can't get me.

13:48.06
Jeremy
And when I got in earlier this evening, there was three of them running circles around one tree, just taunting the dogs because Jeremy was occupied and couldn't let him out, you know, but that's always fun.

13:59.69
Jeremy
And they've been in my garden numerous times already. Like I have put a lot of dirt back in with my asparagus, you know, we've got oak trees and stuff and, you know, and the acorns and stuff, and they've been taking them and putting them up, I guess, for the winter.

14:02.63
Annette
Oh.

14:14.17
Jeremy
So they are constantly, I've got holes all over there that I'm just putting more dirt in. So we'll, we'll see what happens in the future. I may be battling both squirrels and chickens.

14:24.28
Annette
Whoa.

14:25.35
Jeremy
And both taste good and still.

14:25.65
Rhonda
I won.

14:29.23
Rhonda
There you go.

14:29.58
Annette
I've never tried squirrel.

14:31.11
Jeremy
Squirrel and dumpling just like rabbit dumpling.

14:34.04
Annette
Mm-hmm.

14:34.89
Rhonda
I've had squirrel once and it did actually of taste like chicken.

14:35.12
Annette
Yeah.

14:41.70
Jeremy
Delicious and nutritious just like chicken.

14:46.19
Rhonda
um What other critters get in the garden? do we we have some things called voles. They're like little mice.

14:52.18
Jeremy
Yes. Yes. um I've had some of those out here too, but I haven't had any in in the garden. They've just been getting up in my lawn where the sod is, and um which really is another thing because, you know, put money into a yard with sod and then I've got the dogs tearing up the yard to get to the voles.

15:13.91
Rhonda
Oh, wow. Well, they're trying to help.

15:15.17
Jeremy
So I'm glad I have a big pile of dirt because I have been filling holes for for days. You know Jeremy was gone for about two weeks doing some stuff that he does.

15:25.90
Jeremy
And um every time I'd turn around, I'd fill in one hole and turn around, there'd be another hole. And I go fill it in and go back to the other one and they've already dug it out. And the interesting thing is... You would think that you would be able to fill that hole. Like all that dirt came out and all that dirt should go back in, but it's never enough.

15:43.10
Jeremy
Like it takes more and more to fill the hole no matter how much you try. I'm like, where did all the dirt go? ah How come that hole is ah it's not filled all the way?

15:53.56
Annette
I don't understand that. I really don't. It does not make sense. Is it the earth rotating? I don't, where, yeah, you're right. Where does it go? there a black hole in our yards? Because

16:07.25
Jeremy
Well, literally, there there are black holes in my yard that the dogs have dug.

16:08.35
Annette
i don't get it.

16:15.33
Annette
I'm not so worried about then the animals the bugs. bugs

16:21.39
Rhonda
True.

16:21.50
Annette
We had these demon bugs with these black flat legs that got in my tomatoes two years ago and completely destroyed everything.

16:34.98
Annette
and last year I didn't see them. I was glad for that, but bugs are the worst. And then you can't spray anything on it because you don't want to. And then you got the birds in the yard.

16:46.99
Annette
So bugs are bane of my work in the garden.

16:51.90
Jeremy
I think the two things that I had to worry with last year what I'm dealing with this year is um I've already got aphids. I got a hold of ah a couple of my watermelon plants. um And I know with that, you can, I took, um you can take like Dawn just detergent and water and spray it.

17:06.95
Jeremy
um You'll have to do that like every day till it dies off that or go get some ladybugs. I understand that they'll get them. And then, uh, The, what are they, the squash bores?

17:18.31
Jeremy
I had some of those ruin my zucchini last year. um You know, so that's, again, another reason why I want to kind of go with the pots and keep the pots in a different area that they're less likely to to have those type of insects. But you're right.

17:31.33
Jeremy
um You can see a lot of good work go to waste very quickly um when they when they when they set in

17:37.26
Annette
Mm-hmm.

17:39.78
Rhonda
And those darn hornworms, they can eat an entire plant in one night is what I read.

17:40.03
Annette
Yeah.

17:46.80
Jeremy
So they can. i have had those on the tomatoes before and also on my dill. It's pretty funny because Jeremy will take a blacklight and go out at nighttime and check the plants.

18:00.76
Jeremy
So that was kind of interesting is finding out what insects eat the other insects, but those hornworms, you're right, they can eat an entire plant and in a night.

18:08.89
Rhonda
You should get the get the kids out there. It would be like a treasure hunt for them.

18:12.68
Jeremy
Oh, I love it.

18:13.80
Rhonda
Oh.

18:14.08
Jeremy
Also, you ought to see when they, um there I think there's a type of wasp that will ah basically sting them and then lay their eggs in them.

18:22.48
Rhonda
oh

18:24.45
Jeremy
So that was kind of a neat thing cutting the leaves off last year to show the kids as well.

18:24.57
Annette
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

18:28.69
Jeremy
i agree with you, Rhonda. You know, all the stuff is letting the kids get out there and explore. You know, they're too... um reliant now on technology. You know, my, even my not even quite two-year-old knows how to swipe up, swipe down, swipe left, but so swipe right.

18:39.03
Rhonda
Yeah.

18:45.33
Rhonda
Yeah.

18:45.67
Annette
Oh, wow.

18:46.85
Jeremy
And, you know, even earlier when I got home, she was wanting to get on my phone because I have a lot of animated songs that she's learning. And I'm like, no, we're not doing that. We're outside. I've got the little pool set up. You guys have got the dirt pile.

18:57.60
Jeremy
They also have the ash from the fire pit. Like they think it's fun to go play in the dirt and get themselves completely dirty and then spray off with the hose. But I'm like, no, there's too much fun stuff to do. We are not staying on electronic devices. It's not happening.

19:09.66
Rhonda
That's

19:10.45
Annette
Not at this time of the year.

19:10.69
Rhonda
ah

19:11.69
Annette
It's beautiful out.

19:13.89
Jeremy
Now, and it's interesting because with my grandchildren, they're, know, very different personalities. And I know we've talked before about our redneck granddaughter, you know, that she's been out since she's been in this world. My daughter's taken her out fishing.

19:30.14
Jeremy
saltwater, freshwater. She's been dove, duck, deer, squirrel, rabbit, turkey hunting.

19:32.14
Annette
Wow.

19:37.92
Jeremy
And then my other granddaughter, you know, so that one has no issue getting dirty. She will get in it. Matter of fact, she was playing with worms yesterday. I'm like, put the worms back, remember where you put them. We're going to need those when we go fishing. Remember where you, where that, that rich dirt is to get those worms in the future.

19:54.13
Jeremy
And then her other cousin that they're a couple months apart, won't have anything to do it. You know, she has to have shoes on to get to the pool and then she don't want anything dirty. So if something is dirty, you have to rinse it off.

20:06.63
Jeremy
um But she did, her dad dick did take her on her sixth birthday and Jeremy may have talked about this earlier, it was the first day of youth season for turkey, and he let her stay out of school, got her all kitted up, and took her out, and she got her her first ah her first turkey.

20:25.18
Jeremy
So that's super exciting. I got a picture of that hanging on the wall already. So Vaila's got one, and Sophia's gotten one this year, so.

20:30.11
Annette
Oh, wow.

20:30.25
Rhonda
Nice.

20:34.99
Rhonda
Nice.

20:37.19
Annette
Who processes them?

20:39.38
Jeremy
ah The men do. They're going to take and they fillet it up that's already been put up.

20:42.30
Annette
Oh, wow.

20:45.03
Jeremy
um You know, that's one of the big things. The girls, they didn't have time to teach that. But as we get more into other seasons, that is something that, you know, they need to be out there to experience as well. And the other thing that's interesting, and, you know it's based on each person's beliefs, your faith or whatever.

20:55.31
Annette
Mm-hmm.

21:00.05
Jeremy
But I know for my son, when his daughter got her first kill, he taught her to pray and be thankful for the provision.

21:07.65
Annette
Mm-hmm.

21:07.70
Jeremy
And you don't just kill to kill. You know, this is going to provide for us nourishment for our body and, you know, ah thanking the Lord for the ability to be able to have that harvest.

21:10.37
Annette
Exactly.

21:20.35
Jeremy
So I thought that that was really neat that she's out there spending quality time with her dad and her dad's trying to teach her properly, um you know, about how to take care of the land and being grateful for the provision that we have.

21:31.96
Annette
Exactly. ah I've heard some podcasts where they were talking about hunting and laughing because of the way they may have missed the first time and wounded the animal. And that just was very off-putting and insensitive.

21:49.77
Annette
I agree that it is a life that's taken and it's providing food and that needs to be respected.

21:57.02
Jeremy
Yeah, I agree.

21:58.05
Rhonda
Mm-hmm.

21:58.76
Jeremy
I'll have to send you ladies some some pictures behind the scenes, but to me it was, ah you the last couple of weeks have been pretty exciting to see ah my granddaughters learning new things, the time that they're getting with their dads, and some of them their dads and moms, because like I said, you know, my my daughter loves to hunt as well, and I can remember during dove season that, you know,

22:19.97
Jeremy
her having both of the girls out there and her being extremely pregnant. You know, right now she's got a one-month-old, you know, but taking the other girls out there. So even if they're out playing in the mud, they're still out there for the hunt. You know, you're they're part of the entire experience.

22:35.22
Annette
That's good.

22:37.24
Rhonda
that

22:37.27
Annette
That's good to learn those skill sets because so many people don't even know how to do their own laundry now.

22:43.39
Jeremy
That's true.

22:43.58
Rhonda
That's true.

22:43.85
Jeremy
Yeah.

22:43.84
Annette
but i mean, it's really kind of worrying to see people who are in their, you know, 20s they go off to the university and they don't know how to do their own laundry.

22:56.95
Annette
You're setting them up for failure the way that

22:57.19
Rhonda
oh They're all going to have robots soon. It's all right.

23:01.60
Annette
Oh, lol. Don't get me started.

23:07.28
Jeremy
So I used to work ah in an industry that you're going to have the same group of people every year. You know, you're going to be hiring those ah high school ah juniors and seniors and those freshmen and sophomore in college. And um I had another young lady that was working with me and she was very frustrated because, you know, here she has a family. She's got five children and she just is really frustrated with with some of the employees. And I had to pull her aside and I'm like, you need to understand this industry. We are teaching life skills. You would think that many of these young people would learn this at home, but it's not the case.

23:46.29
Annette
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

23:46.56
Jeremy
you know, so it's, as I said, every once in a while, you'll get a good business student that comes in and wants to learn the business from the ground to up, and ah then their eyes are wide open and their ears are wide open to learn, you know, the operational side as well. They they know that you have to do, um you know, the legwork, but there's also the bigger picture, but I said, if once you understand that, it will not be frustrating anymore. You're going to teach them how to sweep, how to mop, how to do laundry, basic cleanliness, how to maintain equipment when you're not in a busy season, um basic customer service skills. And then, you know, when cell phones were first becoming really big, I had to, when my employees came in, I would have to take them away.

24:27.84
Jeremy
I'm like, you're not here to be on your phone. You're here to interact with the customers. And if it's really important, somebody can call the landline. And also, you know, if they're behind the counter working, um we would come in, we would remove the stools because then a minute they came in and sat down behind the counter on that stool, they went into a lazy mindset.

24:36.32
Annette
ah Yeah.

24:46.25
Jeremy
So they come in, where are the stools? I'm not paying you to sit. I'm paying you to work.

24:52.58
Jeremy
you know and yeah solve that problem but you also knew that based on that age during the summer season and when concerts were coming in ah you're going to wind up pulling all the shifts because they're all going to want to go to the concert together and if you put somebody on the schedule and they don't want to be on the schedule well now you're going to be hiring somebody else

24:53.16
Rhonda
Solve that problem.

25:13.19
Annette
Yeah.

25:13.29
Jeremy
So lots lots of lessons learned, but you know, you're right. Technology is changing and there are so many young people. Even with the military, they talked about having trouble being able to recruit folks because um they spend so much time inside and, you know, they're dealing with their video games and all that, that they're not getting the right amount of sunlight, so they don't have the bone strength.

25:35.80
Jeremy
And so they were finding that the ones that actually could make it through the medical screening, ah once they got into their basic training, were getting stress fractures very easily. um And it's just because they they lack the vitamin D because they're never outside, or they're outside very limited.

25:51.42
Annette
this

25:52.94
Rhonda
I can't believe that.

25:54.46
Annette
That's concerning on so many levels.

25:58.25
Jeremy
Now, I just think when I was coming up, and this is probably telling my age, you know, as long as the sun was out, we were outside. And, you know, you need to come home when the streetlights, if you had a streetlight, was coming in or or got really dark.

26:06.08
Annette
Yep.

26:11.02
Jeremy
ah You know, and most of us, and like I've been in different countries, too, that I didn't even need to go home. I could pull bananas and guavas and cherries and stuff off trees. And, like, you just eat what you want through the day and come back home at night. But most of these young people now, they really don't want to be outdoors.

26:30.08
Rhonda
I wanted to ask, how do let's talk about our husbands for a minute.

26:38.34
Annette
Okay.

26:39.13
Jeremy
Are you sure you want to do that?

26:39.52
Rhonda
How do you...

26:42.97
Rhonda
he He made the mistake of saying something about me on one episode. no Now I lick everything that I bring to him when he asks me to bring something to him on the couch. he said i like He said I licked one of his cookies, so now I lick his coffee cup, I lick his fork, you know whatever I'm bringing over there.

27:02.31
Annette
little passive-aggressive, huh?

27:03.96
Rhonda
ah

27:06.20
Jeremy
We call it, as that's hauling on food. You know, I hauled on your food. That meant I breathed on it or I licked it or.

27:13.79
Annette
I wouldn't even think to do that, y'all.

27:16.95
Jeremy
um would, especially if it was like the last piece of dessert and I really wanted it. I'd stick my finger in it. I'd lick it. I'd make sure I grossed him out till he didn't want to eat it.

27:23.79
Annette
Wow.

27:25.07
Rhonda
Make it yours.

27:26.16
Jeremy
yeah

27:27.22
Rhonda
Lay your claim on it.

27:28.30
Annette
That's diabolical.

27:29.97
Rhonda
but

27:30.20
Jeremy
i put my DNA all over that.

27:32.95
Rhonda
There you go.

27:35.06
Annette
Oh, dear God.

27:37.00
Rhonda
I was just wondering if y'all work side by side on the same things or do you have like part of the garden that's yours and part of the garden that your husband takes care of or how do you go about sharing the garden?

27:49.46
Annette
For me, it's basically I come up with what I want and then Marty builds it. He's excellent at building things and that's his skill set. That's one of his skill sets.

28:02.75
Annette
And so I'll say I want a raised bed garden and I saw a photo online and I said, hey, I like this style. What do you think? And he said, I can do it.

28:14.77
Annette
So he's been collecting pallets for me. I've been doing the ground cover, but he's primarily um with the, with anything gardening, he will build any fences or like the raised bed garden.

28:29.19
Annette
And like I said, but he's the carpenter and I'll say, drill some holes in this.

28:32.05
Rhonda
Okay.

28:34.06
Annette
Could you drill some holes in this tub for me? I need to move this plant over. He'll do you that. But as far as like messing with the plants, I'm the only one who does that.

28:43.80
Rhonda
okay

28:45.78
Jeremy
For me, it is a combination. um Jeremy was of one that first wanted to start ah messing with gardening, and I kind of encouraged that. And he did a greenhouse one year that one of the one of those PVC pipe ones, you know, plastic, and it didn't seem that he did.

29:07.48
Jeremy
He had a good yield, and so the next year I kind of got involved with him, talked with him based off what I knew,

29:11.44
Annette
Mm-hmm.

29:13.10
Jeremy
And ah we had a really, you know, really good yield last year. And then this year I told him I was going to need a ah better greenhouse. So he did go and... um He spent a lot of time trying to reinforce this one. So I've got a really nice greenhouse out there now, but he did the greenhouse and then he's been really busy. um He's had a family situation where he had to travel and then he does stuff working with the military, with special forces training. So, you know, he's been gone for a couple of weeks. So everything else this year has pretty much fallen on me.

29:46.81
Jeremy
um Now I'm getting ready to rotate out. And so right before um i jumped on, And we were trading places, you know, i'm like, hey, I've already watered this. This is what needs to happen. And then I'll give him some instruction um um the rest while I've gone.

30:01.03
Jeremy
But, you know, just about all the seedlings and stuff. I've done all that. And, you know, just share with him where we're at and how that's going.

30:05.52
Annette
Oh

30:07.84
Jeremy
But I think one of the main things that was super exciting for both of us this year is I took seeds from an apple. And um I germinated them and I'm actually growing an apple tree.

30:14.74
Annette
oh wow.

30:17.99
Jeremy
i got It's an itty bitty, but, you know, so now I'm like, I got to try it with lemons.

30:19.95
Annette
That's so cool.

30:22.61
Jeremy
And ah yeah, so now if we have all this different fruit that's, you know, going to be here, i want to find out, you know, how well we can do with that. um Because last year we did so good with the tomatoes and the basil. I mean, I had so much stuff that I was propagating that I didn't want to, I didn't want to kill it, that we were giving,

30:43.85
Jeremy
so many plants away. i mean, I probably gave over a hundred tomato plants away to different neighbors for them to grow their own and the basil.

30:53.37
Annette
oh

30:54.04
Rhonda
Mm-hmm.

30:55.41
Jeremy
um And then, but last year, i didn't grow my basil and cilantro and all that from seed. you know, I bought the plants from the grocery store that they have in the produce section, and then I planted them.

31:07.10
Jeremy
And then I would separate them and, you know, continue to grow more that way. um But this year I did it from seed and it's interesting to watch, ah but it is the basal and all that's doing really good. So all that to say, yeah, we, our roles change based off what we need at the house.

31:27.63
Jeremy
um But, you know, Jeremy is the one that does have those building skills. If I needed something built and he wasn't here, i'd I'd phone a friend.

31:33.37
Annette
Mm-hmm.

31:34.78
Rhonda
yeah

31:35.37
Jeremy
Or i'd I'd find another makeshift way until I could have what I wanted. You know, I would have i would have done something in the in the garage or in ah another room in the house or whatever I needed.

31:40.42
Rhonda
Yeah.

31:46.61
Jeremy
But, you know, we worked together pretty well. Yeah.

31:50.85
Rhonda
Well, I don't have building skills, but I do it anyway because we're we're like, opposite He wants everything perfect and nice tidy rows, you know, square with each other, you know, perpendicular.

32:07.40
Jeremy
Well,

32:08.91
Rhonda
um and I already told him I'm going to make my own chaos garden. And i don't know if you've seen those on the internet, but I have an area in the yard that I'm just going to go plant stuff in the dirt and it's going to be all over the place and be a mess.

32:25.08
Rhonda
And I'm just going to see how it grows.

32:27.24
Annette
I want to see that, how that works.

32:27.26
Rhonda
ah I don't want to. Yeah, I'm not good with trying to make things perfect. I made actually did make a potato box out of pallets that I think came out pretty good.

32:33.25
Jeremy
well

32:37.67
Annette
Cool.

32:37.98
Rhonda
But obviously big pallets.

32:38.82
Jeremy
Oh, I'd like to see that.

32:40.72
Annette
Yeah, let me tell

32:41.86
Rhonda
I'll have to put a picture of.

32:42.46
Jeremy
So I do have one portion that is a chaos garden. So what I mentioned earlier, you know, I had a little bit of buckets.

32:46.69
Rhonda
Mm-hmm.

32:49.17
Jeremy
I've got the raised bed and then I have rows, but I also have a big raised bed that was our compost pile. So I like threw a lot of my dirt from my pots last year in there, all of my coffee grounds, my ah vegetable and fruit peels, like all that goes in there and thrown some dirt and it's got leaves and all that in it.

33:09.20
Jeremy
And, Then I also threw seed in there. I've got, and I planted three watermelon plants. My cousin has been staying here from Pennsylvania. She's really learned a lot ah this year by helping me with the seedlings. And then we had some watermelons that the aphids got. So I'm like, hey, you know, these plants here aren't going to be any good. They've about, you know, eaten us up. We need to plant some more. We'll come to find out. She probably planted 40 plants.

33:38.20
Jeremy
40 seeds in there. So I've got watermelon everywhere. There's a potato and tomatoes and the watermelon and anything else that might show up later.

33:48.80
Rhonda
Nice. love it.

33:50.57
Annette
I have to look and see what a chaos garden is. It sounds like my kind of thing.

33:55.90
Jeremy
Just throw the seed wild to see what comes up. Whatever takes.

33:59.62
Annette
Sounds like... That's fun.

34:03.69
Jeremy
One of the other things I did this year too is ah last year, you know, we had bought some marigolds and I was able to, as they grew, I separated the plant, made more plants, made more plants.

34:03.96
Rhonda
Um, mm

34:10.24
Annette
Yeah.

34:10.56
Rhonda
hmm.

34:16.28
Jeremy
And then I started keeping all of the flowers, which obviously are their seed. um And I had baggies, like gallon baggies of seed. And so I put some out already and I probably have got maybe 25 or 30 marigold plants already from seed.

34:36.33
Rhonda
Wow.

34:37.37
Annette
Wow Holy cow

34:38.33
Jeremy
Yeah. So I thought that that was kind of neat.

34:38.97
Rhonda
That's awesome.

34:40.17
Jeremy
And I'm like, you know, I'm not going to have to ever buy ah marigolds. And then sometimes when you get flowers from the store, you can also propagate those. I had somebody give me some flowers when ah I had my last shoulder surgery and um I left them in the water and they root it.

34:56.74
Jeremy
and So I planted them outside. yeah So now I'll just continue to keep the seed and and separate them. I just, I didn't do it by color, but um I didn't care.

35:07.92
Jeremy
The main thing is is I want pollinators and i want them um to be able to ward off different insects.

35:10.60
Rhonda
Mm-hmm.

35:15.27
Annette
That's what I've been using some of them for. I put some in mixed them in with some of the bucket plants because I heard that that would help with some of the pest control.

35:25.49
Jeremy
Yep. Yep.

35:26.71
Annette
I've never tried it before.

35:26.87
Jeremy
Basil, your mint, um, marigolds, a lot of those mint is pretty much, they say that that wards off everything, but you have to contain mint or it'll take over everything.

35:40.57
Jeremy
Yeah. I have a lot of mint too. Um, And I will tell you that recently I had a ah work thing and the location we went to, they specialized in different type of mojitos.

35:43.72
Rhonda
that.

35:52.15
Jeremy
And I'm like, hmm, I got a lot of mint.

35:53.93
Annette
I

35:54.77
Jeremy
Let me find out about these different mojitos and how they make them.

36:00.39
Jeremy
So that a way I can entertain with all this mint. Otherwise, I could just throw it in with the, you know, cucumber water whatever and dry some of it up and crush it up for tea, um especially when we go into the cooler temperatures. I love a cup of hot tea in the evening.

36:13.99
Annette
ah love mint.

36:15.58
Rhonda
Me too. I have some mint growing and I have something called lemon balm. I'm not exactly sure what I'm going to do with it.

36:20.66
Annette
Yeah, that's good for bees, right?

36:21.84
Jeremy
I've not been able to grow that. I've not been able to grow that. I have tried three times this year and not bit of it has come up.

36:31.09
Rhonda
Really?

36:31.96
Jeremy
Yeah. So I'm kind of jealous of you.

36:34.90
Rhonda
You know, one thing that we did that I saw on Facebook, of course, because that's where I learn everything, and is we went and bought a big giant, I think it was 40 pounds of sunflower seeds.

36:35.03
Annette
Yeah.

36:48.78
Rhonda
um And they were called black, black something.

36:52.76
Jeremy
Are they Are they the black mammoth?

36:54.18
Rhonda
They're for birds.

36:55.07
Jeremy
Mm-hmm.

36:55.64
Rhonda
Yeah, black black mammoth, I think. But they're it's bird seed. But we went and spread that all over the field. so hopefully after this couple of weeks of rain, we'll see those popping up.

37:07.08
Jeremy
I did plant a bunch of sunflowers. um I've got them in pots in the front of my house. And only thing that's frustrating for me is I've got some of them right now. They haven't had the flowers yet. They're still producing the leaves and growing tall.

37:21.79
Jeremy
And i would say they're probably about two, two and a half foot tall right now. But I got one of my dogs that every time I let him out, I hey yeah i had him lining my steps and pots.

37:27.71
Annette
Oh wow.

37:33.25
Jeremy
And now I've had to move him against the house because every time the dog would come out, he would do a drive by and bite the leaves off.

37:41.81
Jeremy
But I really wanted to have him again because it's kind of like it attracts the the birds and stuff. And I want to be able to throw the seed wild and have sunflowers everywhere.

37:51.91
Annette
I would love that.

37:51.89
Rhonda
So these are black black oil sunflower wild bird seed, and it was $15 for giant bag.

38:00.88
Annette
I'm writing all this down, you know.

38:02.93
Jeremy
That's a good way to go, though, because if you think about a lot of the seeds that we're purchasing, sometimes you're only getting maybe 15. It depends on the the type of seed. Maybe 15 or a little bit more, and you're spending at least $4 on that.

38:17.75
Rhonda
Right.

38:17.86
Jeremy
So that was my whole thought of like, hey, I'm going to keep my own seeds and you know, I'm putting them in baggies.

38:18.19
Annette
Mm-hmm.

38:23.66
Jeremy
I think I've already shared some different things that we have. um You know, I talked about the binder that we have that you can do your seeds and the little baggies that you can put them And then Jeremy found, because he's got this thing about, you know, guns and ammo.

38:39.73
Jeremy
He found a little box that looks like it's an ammo box and it is a storage for seeds

38:46.05
Rhonda
Wow.

38:46.46
Annette
oh

38:47.54
Rhonda
ah

38:47.75
Jeremy
So you could do the little envelopes or you can do, they make the small little packets, the little Ziploc baggies and stuff like that. But I'm trying to do all my own seeds. You know, when you look at when you're starting a garden, if you have nothing and you're having to go purchase those, you can spend a lot of money your first couple of years. so um

39:06.92
Rhonda
Oh, yeah.

39:07.24
Annette
Oh. Mm-hmm.

39:07.50
Jeremy
But if people realize, if you'll just take a couple of minutes and save some seed, You can have your own, you know, and even from some of the stuff you even get out of the grocery store if it's non-GMO.

39:15.41
Rhonda
You know,

39:20.76
Rhonda
we went to the farmer's market last year and there were Mennonites there.

39:27.33
Jeremy
Mm-hmm.

39:28.56
Rhonda
And oh they had the best produce. So I saved a lot of pepper seeds, different kinds of peppers. But actually got one of the tomatoes and cut it open and I got all the seeds out of the jelly, you know, out of the tomato.

39:43.39
Rhonda
And they're growing. i can't believe it So I have tons of little paper plants.

39:46.64
Annette
how do you do that How do you do the tomatoes? Do you have to dry them out or how does that work?

39:52.91
Rhonda
Yeah, take that you take that membrane that has the seeds in and put it on a paper towel and just let it kind of dry. i kind of like folded the paper towel over and squeezed the juice out and then let it dry.

40:03.60
Annette
Mm-hmm. Do you put it in the freezer?

40:05.92
Rhonda
no I don't know if I should have.

40:06.82
Annette
Okay. Oh, wow.

40:08.70
Rhonda
Maybe I should have, but I didn't.

40:10.71
Annette
Some things you do and then others don't.

40:10.84
Rhonda
ah

40:13.46
Annette
i didn't know I've never done tomato seeds, though.

40:17.29
Rhonda
I have several things that I did put in the freezer or the refrigerator over the winter that hopefully will will sprout. But they're one of them pistachio tree that I got from Texas.

40:30.72
Jeremy
Oooh.

40:31.05
Annette
Holy cow.

40:32.17
Rhonda
I got a bunch of seeds when I was in Texas off of a tree that was really pretty. And

40:37.53
Annette
That would be amazing. Do they grow in your zone?

40:40.63
Rhonda
I don't know.

40:42.27
Jeremy
That's interesting, though, because, you know, on the way to Cloudcroft, New Mexico, they have a little place off on the side of the road that's got a giant pistachio.

40:42.25
Rhonda
I don't know.

40:51.71
Jeremy
And they sell the pistachios there and the different wines and stuff that they make in that area. um I think that would be really neat to have the pistachio tree, though.

41:01.64
Annette
That would be amazing. ah got a pomegranate tree at the Herb Fest our last weekend. That's supposed to grow in zones 7 through 11 and I'm so excited.

41:11.80
Rhonda
Really?

41:13.01
Annette
Yes.

41:14.49
Rhonda
Wow.

41:14.64
Annette
If that thing takes off and is a success, I will be so happy.

41:18.95
Jeremy
So down on the outskirts of El Paso, my um son's wife, their family owns a pomegranate farm.

41:28.97
Annette
oh

41:30.06
Jeremy
and

41:30.12
Annette
I would be in heaven.

41:31.13
Jeremy
ah So imagine that, like, you know, fresh pomegranates and being able to do the juice and all the different things from that. Yeah, I thought that was really neat because when I would go visit and ah it was harvest time, you know, they would always have a lot of pomegranates at their house.

41:47.49
Annette
That is like the best thing ever, besides watermelon.

41:47.50
Rhonda
Wow.

41:50.09
Rhonda
Never, never even thought about growing those. That's a good idea.

41:55.36
Annette
I didn't even know it was available. I had thought about it, but, and I was looking at the zones and it said that there were some varieties that did grow. I'm in zone 8A. And so this one, when I went, said it covered all those zones. It was the last one there.

42:11.37
Annette
I grabbed that thing so fast, but um I will definitely keep you posted on how it does.

42:12.55
Rhonda
ha

42:17.52
Annette
Yeah, Absolutely.

42:17.72
Rhonda
Yeah, shared some pictures. I was going to, you mentioned propagating stuff from the store. I was going to tell you, I'm not going to name this person that I know, but she goes prop lifting sometimes.

42:32.39
Rhonda
Like a Calloway's or somewhere like that.

42:35.14
Jeremy
Walk through and take a pinch here and take a pinch there.

42:37.42
Rhonda
Yeah, well, she says she picks him up off the floor, but I don't know.

42:38.57
Annette
What?

42:43.17
Annette
What did she do with them?

42:45.36
Jeremy
Bring a look.

42:45.39
Rhonda
Propagates them.

42:46.93
Jeremy
Put him back, put him in water and get him root.

42:47.11
Annette
my god!

42:47.75
Rhonda
i They call it prop lifting.

42:49.42
Jeremy
Yeah.

42:49.48
Rhonda
she calls it prop lifting

42:51.65
Jeremy
ah that that

42:51.82
Annette
I have never heard of that.

42:53.74
Jeremy
That's pretty funny because, you know, already um I've been starting to get the the suckers and stuff on my tomatoes.

42:54.09
Rhonda
no

42:59.46
Jeremy
And after they get to a certain length, I pinch them off. I put them in water. I re-root them. And that's how I had so many tomato plants last year. Same thing with the basil and my ment. will clip those off. I'll take the leaves that I want and then take those stems.

43:13.29
Jeremy
and stick them back in water, let them root replant those. I mean, it's just a continual cycle. The same thing with my rosemary. um I'll clip some of that to use for fresh, but, you know, I'll take what I want from the bottom and stick it back in the water and and root it and repot it.

43:27.81
Jeremy
So that's, I think, was kind of a neat thing last season was being able to share so much with so many of the neighbors in the community, like, hey, I've already grown this for you. All you have to do is put it in a pot.

43:41.42
Annette
Mm-hmm. And it empowers neighbors.

43:44.66
Rhonda
Yeah.

43:44.86
Jeremy
And a lot of those are going to come back on a regular, um you know, like the rosemary, is that that's a hardy plant. It's kind of difficult to kill that. Mint grows year round, you know, so some of the stuff, it it makes it kind of easy.

43:56.84
Annette
Mm-hmm.

43:59.84
Annette
I got rosemary, too, at the Herb Fest. I've never grown it. I don't know anything about it. I've heard all the benefits for it, so God willing, that's going to work, too.

44:12.15
Rhonda
I have one last question. I know we've been on here for a while, but I wanted to ask, because this is the bad weather season, you know, what what do you do if your plants are you know, thriving and hailstorm is about to hit?

44:28.03
Jeremy
It depends. ah I guess the answer is it depends. It depends on how big the plants are. It depends on what they're potted in If they're in a pot, ah it depends on the resources that you have and how you can quickly try to create some type of a cover from from having mass destruction.

44:44.80
Rhonda
Well, I guess if you're doing the five gallon buckets, that's definitely a good reason to do those.

44:45.85
Annette
Yeah.

44:50.38
Rhonda
is Yeah,

44:52.22
Annette
Yeah, putting tarp over it maybe, but usually the storms, it depends how quickly they come in

45:01.93
Rhonda
if they come in really quick, I guess you don't really have much choice.

45:02.22
Jeremy
Yeah.

45:02.29
Annette
Sometimes, a lot of times over here they do, they'll come just zippy quick and you're you don't really have time to do anything.

45:08.47
Rhonda
Really?

45:12.03
Annette
i guess best case scenario cover with tarp

45:17.36
Rhonda
I had ah the feed store in town here sells burlap bags for like $3, empty ones.

45:17.70
Annette
and pra

45:26.47
Rhonda
So I bought a bunch of those, and I used those the last time to kind of drape over the raised beds last year. But i was it it protected them.

45:34.11
Annette
How did that work?

45:38.62
Annette
OK.

45:39.80
Rhonda
Luckily, most of the taller plants were inside of the greenhouse or the hoop tombs. But we don't have that this year.

45:45.45
Jeremy
Now I,

45:46.65
Rhonda
They're all going to be exposed. So i'm kind of wondering if something happens.

45:49.39
Annette
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

45:49.65
Jeremy
yeah, so not for the, not for the hell, but when our temperatures dipped down, I did move, like I said, buckets indoors, but for like my potatoes and stuff that were doing really well, I took what you would use for ground cover, um and that's all that I had available, and I draped it over those raised beds with the potatoes and put bricks on both ends so it wouldn't blow off um to protect the the potato plants.

45:50.31
Rhonda
I don't know what to do.

45:54.06
Rhonda
All right.

46:15.11
Jeremy
um But again, it's like, what do you do? in and what And what part of the season are you in? Because when I was first doing my plants, um a lot of times based on the temperatures at night, if I don't want to put them back in the greenhouse, I will cut the end of um like soda bottles or big water bottles. And I put those over the plant. So that way it holds ah the heat and stuff in But also if we had, you know, a storm come through, it would protect it. So ah And that doesn't, you know, that's just taking recycled materials that we have. And I have a big container that I keep them in and use them for a period of time. And even if you're cutting the top off the bottle, of if it's a soda container or water bottle or whatever, you can also use that later to water your plant so that you're not putting stuff directly on the roots. You can put that back down on the soil and, you know, fill that, that the lid up with water.

47:09.44
Annette
good idea.

47:11.77
Jeremy
So I've seen a lot of neat things with that and just teaching the grandbabies on how to use a lot of those.

47:12.12
Rhonda
all right

47:16.85
Jeremy
And then the other thing is using those for planters is, um I guess, the same concept of using a solo cup, you know, but taking those bottles that you're already using and putting holes in them and using those to kind of do the seedlings in it as well.

47:31.79
Rhonda
Yeah, we've been doing that too.

47:34.75
Jeremy
And the toilet paper rolls really worked well. That was ah something that really impressed my cousin that are your paper towel centers. She'd never seen anybody do that before to put dirt and seed in it. And I'd be like, look, this is a whole sunflower plant. Look at these roots hanging out the bottom. I'm just going to put this whole thing down in this pot now that it's ready to get planted.

47:55.74
Rhonda
So you put the toilet paper roll and everything in there?

47:59.01
Jeremy
Yes. Yeah, because it's biodegradable.

48:00.43
Annette
No. Mm-hmm.

48:01.07
Jeremy
So a lot of times I might take a baking pan or an old box, usually a baking pan because you want to start water feed, the bottom feeding, and fill those with the soil, put a little hole in there, drop your seeds, cover it back up, and I have those all kind of jam-packed in like a baking pan.

48:17.10
Jeremy
ah I'm going your, what, 9 by 11, 9 by 12 baking pans. um So my greenhouse had a but had a bunch of baking pans in it. so number one, it's going to help hold the heat. Number two, it's going to hold the water. So if you're trying to um feed from the bottom and then once they start growing and I got those roots, I just pick the whole thing up and put a little hole in a pot and dump that down in there and put soil over the top of it.

48:41.79
Rhonda
Awesome.

48:42.18
Annette
I had to pull up a YouTube video on that one.

48:45.65
Rhonda
i I cut up some paper rolls and used them. But when I transplanted them, I did i just took the roll off. I didn't think about leaving it on there. it was all soggy and nasty.

48:57.81
Rhonda
ah how probably should have left it on there.

49:00.50
Jeremy
Well, you just have to think it becomes kind of mulch.

49:03.32
Rhonda
Yeah.

49:04.19
Annette
Hmm.

49:05.78
Rhonda
Yeah, how I get in my robot mode where I'm just doing things without thinking. Yeah.

49:13.16
Rhonda
Well, I'm glad you guys, both y'all were able to just meet on short notice. It's been a long time and it's all my fault, but I've been a little bit of a in a bad mental state.

49:26.62
Jeremy
Well, we all have life and there's a lot of things that pull and tug us in different directions. and I just think it's really great that, you know, we don't, we can go long periods of time or short periods of time, but it's really nice just to reconnect.