TOPS Bunker: The Original Prepper Survivalist Podcast

202 The Dehydration Equation - Water, Willpower, and the Will to Survive

Keith Otworth & Rhonda Triggs Season 7 Episode 202

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Tonight, we’re talking about this Heat Wave that’s got everyone overheated and sweating.

But no worries, the power grid is running steading,… for now. But the Sun, doesn’t give a damn about our thermostats, our comfort, or our fragile little climate-controlled lives.

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But… Hydration. Shade. Awareness. Forethought and Planning. Simple tools, but combined…? These are heavy hitters when you’re in a Life or Death fight with the Sun.

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Keith
But I was talking to her about the show and how, you know, the beginning and people, how people loved it, but I want to do something different. I want to do a new, something new, you know, for the show. is It's old. It's been around for a while. It's the second one. If you remember correctly, um, actually the third iteration, but really the second, uh, beginning.

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Keith
And, um, But I don't think anybody who I talk to you ever gets it that it's supposed to be like people being ushered in from this, you know this this destruction that's happening outside into the bunker.

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Keith
And then, you know, have a seat, grab a cup of Joe, you know, and then relax. And then welcome to the bunker. It's supposed to be everybody coming in. And she's like, oh, shit. That's what that means. That's what that's. I'm like, well, that's what it's.

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Keith
That's why my voice is supposed to sound like, like, sure. all written You know, in the beginning, it's all kind of, you know, but it just doesn't come across.

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Jeremy
Yeah.

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Keith
She goes, well, you need a megaphone. I got one. I'm like, what? She's like, I got one somewhere around here. Let me look through the boxes. and So if she found one. So now I'm working on a new beginning where it actually is going to sound kind of cool with new music and everything.

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Keith
So yeah.

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Jeremy
ah

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Buddy
Hey, i I was listening to another podcast and they were, fuck.

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Keith
Yeah.

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Buddy
Now she wants to call. Fuck. Hold on a second.

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Keith
Does she matter?

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Buddy
Yeah, it's a and that's something I've been waiting for.

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Keith
Then you better take care of it.

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Buddy
Yeah.

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Keith
um Yeah. So you're going to the beach tomorrow. Why are you going to the beach?

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Jeremy
um Missy and two and a half, two and half, three, something like that.

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Keith
As you said, it's like two hours away, right?

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Keith
Yeah.

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Jeremy
We're going ah to Myrtle.

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Keith
Yeah.

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Jeremy
myrtle um

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Keith
Oh, nice.

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Jeremy
So we have a, it's called a marriage retreat and it's for married couples in the military and um they have workshops and different classes and things like that. And Kaylee has been wanting to do, my daughter Kaylee has been wanting to do a beach trip So it was kind of handy. you know We got on the trip and she wanted to go to the beach anyways. So yeah, it worked out.

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Keith
Nice. Will you actually get to spend time on the beach?

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Jeremy
Um, yeah, well, we'll have down, you know, there's only a certain number of classes. I'm not a huge, like beach person. Um, Missy, uh, can lay out in the sun and fry like a lizard for hours. i don't know how she does it.

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Keith
and Women.

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Jeremy
Um, yeah.

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Keith
that's That's women. They all can do it.

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Jeremy
And I'm just flabbergasted. I would, I would like melt then start burning into flames and then probably explode and whatever else. I don't know. So, but yeah, we'll be heading down to the beach early morning.

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Keith
Right. Yeah. I'm a, I'm a morning beach person.

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Buddy
All

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Jeremy
Yeah, early morning and in the evening, of course, when the fishing, when the fishing's good, and you know, in the evening.

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Keith
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Early, early.

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Jeremy
So, and I thought about taking,

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Keith
Right. Right. Exactly. So, um, once again, we, once again, we got a bit of a delay as you can hear, uh, Jeremy and I are talking over each other.

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Buddy
the

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Jeremy
out

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Jeremy
damn it.

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Keith
yeah I don't know if it's yours, mine or whoever's, but we're going to roll with it. Um, I didn't have that big of a problem last week. Um, doing the post, um, i had to fix a few things here and there, just time a little bit.

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Keith
Um, but it worked out. Um, you know, because the thing is, if we were just to do the show straight through record and then, then I could just take, you know, take your whole entire recording line, your sound, your, your sound wave, and just sort of slide it over a little tiny bit, it would match.

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Jeremy
Yeah.

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Keith
But we're not doing that during the show. We're actually making up for it. Like when we talk over each other, you'll stop. So that affects that whole trying to move the timeline thing.

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Jeremy
yeah

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Keith
So, uh, it really wasn't as bad as I thought it was. It probably only cost me about an extra 20 minutes, you know, as a whole and on the whole, like five or six hour deal. So, No big deal. We'll just, uh, we'll work with it. So, Hey, if the listeners, if you guys hear us, you know, Jeremy and I talking over each other, that's because we both like to talk and, uh, we're, we're some, we're, we're experiencing some sort of a delay between our, our microphones and our headphones. And that we'll figure it out at some point, but it's not going to ruin the show. The show must go on as they say.

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Keith
Right. So yeah, you with us, uh, uh, buddy.

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Jeremy
The show must go on.

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Buddy
Yeah, I'm back. I'm back.

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Keith
Yeah. Cool. Cool. Cool. So emergency, uh, handled.

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Buddy
Yeah, just one of those things. i've been waiting on a phone call all day and ah yeah, perfect timing. So yeah, ah yeah. Anyways, taken care of.

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Keith
So, um, what else is going on? So Jeremy, you're going to be away for a couple of days and then what you're going on contract, right?

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Jeremy
Yeah, we'll be ah we'll be at the beach for a few days, and then the day that I come back, I'll be on contract that night. and'll be ah It'll be a late night into the morning, and then, yeah it's going to be fun being out in the woods of Camp McCall, getting destroyed by mosquitoes and whatever other creature is living out there.

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Keith
You'll be doing...

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Buddy
Oh man, they meant they're going to be terrible now with all that rain. Holy shit.

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Jeremy
Oh, dude, you're who are you telling?

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Keith
Oh, yeah.

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Jeremy
They're terrible around my house.

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Buddy
You might have to tie your hat to your head or, yeah you know, like a bonnet or something so they don't take off with it.

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Buddy
That's an Alaska joke, by the way. They're so big in Alaska, they'll take your hat off your head and

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Keith
Man, Alaska and Siberia, you wouldn't believe, but up north where where the you know seasons are sort of cold, but in their summers, they get mosquitoes that ah it's it's like you're being invaded. It's horrible.

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Buddy
Yeah, it's terrible, but I don't know. was in Any military base I've ever been anywhere in the world, it's just the shittiest place. so Mosquito-wise, I mean, i can't. I'm flipping a coin between Fort Riley, Kansas, Fort Polk, Louisiana.

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Buddy
You know, those two.

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Jeremy
Oh my God.

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Buddy
And Fort Stewart, Georgia was pretty bad, too. So, ah you know, flip coin.

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Jeremy
i would say the, probably the worst place I've ever seen flies in mosquitoes ah and in literal like clouds would be Saudi Arabia. So um

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Buddy
Oh, yeah.

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Keith
Wow, wow, wow.

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Buddy
I did not believe that there was, I knew the flies would be there in the Middle East, but the humidity, i would the place I was at in in and Iraq, well, we were right by the Tigers.

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Keith
Humidity in the desert?

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Jeremy
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

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Buddy
So we were in this little fertile valley being along the river, and it was humid and hot and mosquitoes.

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Keith
Wow.

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Buddy
I couldn't believe it. I was like, ah where the hell now am I?

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Keith
wow

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Buddy
This is a dream. So it was thing sure. ah thing for sure

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Keith
A word of warning out there to you those who may want to keep birds. ah We have a whole lot of birds. right I don't think anybody realizes that right now you know we have our 21 chickens.

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Keith
We have our added 10 chickens that are in the brooder. They're probably about four to six, but six to about six to seven, eight inches tall. And then we also have 25 guinea hens that are about ah eight to 10 inches tall, all in the same brooder.

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Keith
And then we have four turkeys, which are almost a foot tall. Now they're pretty big. Let me tell you something flies. You don't even know about flies until you get, until you get chickens.

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Jeremy
Mmm. Mmm.

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Keith
You don't know about flies. It's it's, we have fly traps everywhere and we're managing to keep them out of the house, but we have, first of all, around the middle the woods.

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Jeremy
yes

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Keith
So you're always going to have flies anyway, especially when you're in our kind of a region where you've got damp areas and all that sort of thing. and It's fly heaven, you know heaven, and anywhere, anywhere you go. Even in Texas, we had lots of flies.

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Keith
Once you get chickens and birds, any kind of fowl, you're going to get flies. And I mean, a lot of flies. I can't even explain. I'm going to take some pictures and show you guys the traps.

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Jeremy
Yeah, i am

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Buddy
think the only thing you're missing.

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Keith
So,

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Buddy
Oh, go ahead.

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Jeremy
no, I was going to say we have, uh, I think this is one of the worst summers I've seen, of the flies and gnats. The gnats are like driving me out of my skull, but the flies are hanging out by the front and back door, like waiting for their opportunity to slide inside because of the AC.

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Keith
Right. Right.

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Jeremy
Yeah.

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Keith
You think that's what it is? You think it's the cold?

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Jeremy
Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, who the hell else wants to be outside in that kind of heat? Dude, it is disgusting out there.

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Keith
We got this. You've seen those fly traps that are kind of like the hang from the ceiling, know, the little skinny sort of tape stuff.

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Jeremy
Mm-hmm.

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Keith
We have them, but they're kind of around here and they're you know out by the brooder. And the brooder's in the garage. There's no air conditioning or anything. Everything's just wide open. And I built this big, gigantic six by six by eight foot tall house made out of chicken wire and wood.

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Keith
And that's where all these birds, these new birds are living, not the turkeys, but the new birds. The turkeys were getting too big. Turkish were actually great. We're in there with them. And we had to separate them because they were grabbing the other, the the Guinea hens and the chickens by the legs and flinging them around.

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Keith
I'm not even kidding you, man. Those turkeys are vicious until they get bigger and then they become loving and they just follow you around the property all day.

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Jeremy
Dude, turkeys are assholes.

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Keith
But I'm telling you what, dude, they're assholes, man. And it's crazy. But yeah, that's where they are.

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Jeremy
Yeah.

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Keith
So we had this other, um, fly trap. It's the same thing as those little ones that are, that are strips of tape, but they're big. They're a foot wide and it's a big roll. Almost looks like a kind of like a paper towel roll, whatever, but it's sticky on one side and you wrote, you kind of pull it all the way out.

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Keith
So one day in the flies kind of congregate around but the floor area out there. So like I pulled it all the way across the floor, about 15 feet from the back of the garage, all the way to the front. By the end of the day, you cannot see this thing anymore.

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Keith
It was completely covered with dead flies, the entire thing.

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Jeremy
Mmm. Mmm.

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Buddy
Wow. That's a lot of flies.

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Keith
You get birds. yeah Once we get them, you know, out and about, they'll be, they'll be less around that area. But even, even out in the yard, I mean, one thing you have to remember about having chickens, and another thing people probably don't think about because everybody wants chickens. Chickens are the gateway yeah animal, you know, to having your own homestead. It's the gateway animal.

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Keith
So you're always going to get chickens. um One thing you don't realize they freaking shit everywhere. They poop everywhere.

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Jeremy
Oh, man.

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Keith
everywhere and anywhere. They don't care where they are. I had a couple of chickens run into the house one day. Didn't even realize it. And I'm like following them around the house and jumping all over the place and they're shitting in the house. I'm like, what, what do you, we we don't shit in that. What are you doing?

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Keith
That's not where you go. You go out in the grass. You don't go in the house.

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Jeremy
oh yeah

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Keith
So yeah, it's bad. And they poop and pee at the same time, by the way, you'll, you'll notice that that chicken poop is white and black. That's kind of like the poo and the pee. It's all in one big gooey freaking mess. It's nasty.

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Buddy
The shit you learn every day.

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Keith
Every day. Oh, wait to wait till the turkeys get big. Because from what I heard, their poops are bigger than dog shits.

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Jeremy
Oh, dude.

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Keith
That's what I heard.

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Jeremy
Yeah.

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Keith
So we're going to see.

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Jeremy
Turkey, Turkey scat, Turkey scat's no fun, man.

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Keith
Yeah, well, you would know because you hunt you hunt turkeys, right?

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Jeremy
Yeah. Yeah. And I have a deep, like deep, deep seated hatred for turkeys.

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Keith
Yeah.

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Jeremy
um I like, I like to eat them. I want to murder them, but I don't, I don't like them. I just, they're, they're mean, nasty animals that just, and if you got one around the right time and you're not paying attention, those, ah those spurs, those spurs are not the most comfortable things that hit your skin. They're, they're not.

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Keith
No. But yeah, that's that's what's going on here at the homestead. And and of course you just heard but what's happening with Jeremy and a buddy doesn't like to talk about his personal life. So we never really hear about him much.

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Buddy
i I'm going on contract myself for a week, so I'll be out of pocket. I'm going to the Dirty, so it'll be hot and stinky, hot and stinky and sweaty there.

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Keith
Going to the dirty.

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Buddy
so

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Keith
What, what is the dirty?

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Buddy
The Dirty South.

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Keith
Oh, the dirty, dirty South.

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Buddy
Hotlanta.

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Keith
Gotcha. Oh, why would you want to go there?

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Buddy
I don't want to go there, but it's where I'm going.

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Keith
Man.

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Buddy
I'd rather be going to...

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Keith
I mean, I, I, I love Georgia. Georgia is beautiful, but Atlanta. Oh man.

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Buddy
Yeah, I might be going to, yeah I think I'm going to probably, want to go through the Atlanta airport.

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Keith
just, I never liked it there.

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Jeremy
Never once.

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Keith
Hmm.

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Jeremy
Never once have I ever volitionally said i want to go to Atlanta. Nobody, i don't know many people who have said, you know what? Let's pack up and go to Atlanta. Let's do that. I don't know anybody who does that.

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Buddy
I mean, that's how bad it is, but yeah, and I think I'm in the probably and not so savory part of town too. So what I understand, but we're,

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Jeremy
yeah

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Buddy
We're doing some training, so we're training some people, so hopefully...

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Keith
But when you when you talk about their forests, oh man, ah Georgia has got some beautiful conivous ah coniferous forests. Lots of pines and pine cones everywhere. And it's it's beautiful.

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Keith
long as you're not in Atlanta.

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Jeremy
Yeah, when I was stationed there, I realized I could fill my deer tag in about a day if I was really concentrating.

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Keith
All right.

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Jeremy
So deer hunting got not necessarily boring, but i realized because at Fort Benning, you can hunt pig, ah wild pigs year round, day and night, shotgun or bow, with a light, without a light.

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Keith
Oh yeah.

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Keith
Wow.

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Jeremy
They don't care how you do it as long as it's not with a rifle in certain areas. And i got into pig hunting and I'm to tell you, man, all pigs.

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Jeremy
um I learned a lot of things about pigs.

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Keith
They want those pigs gone.

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Jeremy
Pigs are. Oh, yeah, it's terrible. I mean, per capita. I mean, they have caused I can't even tell you, like the millions of dollars of damage that they cause every year.

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Jeremy
um But I mean, I was killing pigs left and right to the point where and they don't care if you bring them in. you can leave them in the woods for the vultures. They don't, they don't care. Just, you know, they want them gone.

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Jeremy
um

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Keith
Wow.

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Jeremy
And there's so many of them, but I would kill them. And in the old days you used to be able to, if you took your pig to a processor, you would say, I want bacon and I want chops and I want this and then give the rest of the homeless. So they had homeless shelters that were actually able to take a process to meet, but they can't do that anymore.

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Jeremy
So

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Keith
Oh, why not? That's awesome, man.

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Jeremy
It's because it's all about tax and it's all about the USDA stepping in and saying, well, that, that meat's not certified and blah, blah, blah.

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Keith
Oh, man.

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Jeremy
So, cause all pigs.

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Buddy
And it's really not any, it's not good.

00:14:52.50
Keith
So somebody's somebody's not somebody's not getting paid.

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Buddy
i mean, yeah.

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Jeremy
Yeah. Yeah. ah All pigs.

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Keith
what ah What do you mean by it?

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Jeremy
I learned even domestic pigs.

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Keith
Sorry, man.

00:15:02.48
Jeremy
Go ahead.

00:15:02.90
Keith
what What do you mean by it's not good, buddy?

00:15:04.97
Buddy
I've never liked it. I mean, I've tried, I had a pig hunting company for, well, for about a year out in East Texas. And and I would run out of ammo before I'd run out of things to shoot at night.

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Buddy
And like, it's kind of like it's Georgia. You can spotlight them. You can do whatever.

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Jeremy
Yeah.

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Buddy
And, you know, it I tried and tried and tried to eat them. I just couldn't do it.

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Keith
so wild pig doesn't taste good interesting

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Buddy
Couldn't do it.

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Jeremy
So the ones that, so a, a, a regular pig that's on a farm can become feral in less than two weeks.

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Buddy
Yeah.

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Jeremy
Um, what I would look for, and and that's actually the majority of the feral pigs that they have out there. Um, they grow, they grow feral extremely fast. A lot of people don't know this, but all pigs, you know, even domesticated farm pigs or wild pigs, they all have worms and all pigs have tusks.

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Jeremy
And, um, in the farming industry, of course, they're called wetters and you got to file the wetters down every so often or else they'll tusks will continue to grow. Um, but the ones that I would look for were the ones that look like at one point in time, they may have been on a farm.

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Keith
Oh.

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Jeremy
They're a little bit better. But, um, I don't know, man, wild bacon. There's something about wild bacon. That is that is magical to me. It's, uh, sometimes I would kill a pig though and get it opened up.

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Jeremy
And I would actually, i used to carry a small thing of vinegar with me and you put a little bit of vinegar on the meat, um, inside of the pig and the worms would start coming out. Um, if it was a, that's disgusting.

00:16:42.68
Keith
Whoa.

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Jeremy
It is absolutely disgusting. However, You had to judge, is this an acceptable amount of worms or is this too many worms? But yeah, all all pigs have worms, all of them.

00:16:54.82
Keith
Wow.

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Jeremy
Yeah. Most people don't know that.

00:17:03.46
Keith
Dude, that is so nasty. That is just nasty. I didn't know that.

00:17:06.25
Buddy
Really, the smaller the pig, if you can if you can shoot a smaller one, they're more tender.

00:17:06.30
Jeremy
I know, but...

00:17:11.68
Buddy
um

00:17:11.82
Jeremy
Mm-hmm.

00:17:12.34
Buddy
They're not as bad. But if you get one of the alphas or one of the bigger sows, oh, man, it just tastes so gamey. I've tried everything I could think of and been told to actually, you know, make the meat taste better and nothing, nothing works. so

00:17:28.69
Jeremy
Yeah.

00:17:28.96
Buddy
So I'm not a fan.

00:17:29.87
Keith
All well, now that you guys have wasted most of the time of the podcast talking about shit,

00:17:33.13
Jeremy
Oh, we could...

00:17:34.98
Keith
um ah why don't we go ahead and jump onto the... I wanted to try and make this a short, a realistically and reasonable timed podcast, if we could possibly do that.

00:17:43.90
Jeremy
now

00:17:44.82
Keith
But we're talking about this incredible heat wave.

00:17:45.35
Jeremy
ween

00:17:49.36
Jeremy
We can never keep it short.

00:17:51.78
Buddy
No. Impossible.

00:17:55.39
Jeremy
Yeah, so it's staying hot outside.

00:17:55.71
Keith
Okay, so... Man, it is freaking hot. it was not this hot. It was hot last year, but not like this, man. This is hot and humid. The humidity is really what's what's killing me.

00:18:07.74
Jeremy
Yeah, i don't i mean, we we have hot summers here ah just naturally because of where we're at geographically, but I would say this year...

00:18:09.00
Buddy
Yeah.

00:18:17.80
Jeremy
I mean, it's like, it's oppressive. It's like unconstitutionally hot outside. It's terrible. um And, you know, to the point where if you're working outside and you're doing whatever and you start dripping, like I'm working on the deck, I got to come inside and cool off. I'll go back out, start working on the deck.

00:18:36.38
Jeremy
Got to go inside and cool off and do all those kinds of things.

00:18:41.00
Keith
Yeah, and I'm changing shirts three times a day because they're just dripping wet. And the truth the matter is, sweat does nothing for your body unless it evaporates from your body.

00:18:50.96
Jeremy
hmm. Yeah.

00:18:51.31
Keith
So if you're just sitting around wearing a a wet shirt all day, it's not doing you any good. It has to evaporate for you to cool off.

00:18:58.83
Jeremy
yeah

00:18:59.53
Keith
But you hitting a trip digits down there yet?

00:19:03.27
Buddy
We're close. We're 98, 99. Heat index is higher.

00:19:06.13
Keith
I figured you would be.

00:19:07.53
Buddy
We're about heat index.

00:19:10.02
Keith
Right.

00:19:10.21
Buddy
day at where we were, it looked like it hit and i was out all day long oh working on mowers in the garage, you know, had a fan on me, trying to drink as much as I could.

00:19:22.01
Buddy
Couldn't keep up with it. The girlfriend was out working in the flowerbed. You know, she felt like she was obligated to work outside if I was going to be there. And she, ah she damn never went down. She's like, i don't feel good.

00:19:34.74
Keith
Yeah, don't go inside, man.

00:19:35.59
Buddy
I've got some nausea. I got my head hurts. And I'm like, Oh, go inside and drink some electrolytes.

00:19:39.13
Keith
Yeah.

00:19:41.16
Buddy
So,

00:19:42.51
Keith
Right, right.

00:19:42.80
Buddy
Yeah, it's it's getting crazy, man. I mean, it's time to honestly with with all the rain we were getting and the cooler temperatures this year hasn't been that bad so far.

00:19:52.35
Keith
Are you getting back in the ah mowing business?

00:19:52.45
Buddy
I mean, hell no.

00:19:56.27
Keith
Oh, okay.

00:19:56.70
Buddy
No, this is just between my place and her place.

00:19:56.71
Keith
Well, you said you're working on mowers.

00:19:59.56
Buddy
And and yeah, there's some stuff going on with motors, you know, you know how it is.

00:19:59.92
Keith
oh gotcha. Gotcha.

00:20:04.92
Keith
Yeah.

00:20:05.62
Buddy
Always something.

00:20:06.78
Keith
Always something.

00:20:07.12
Buddy
But but yeah, no, no, no, hell no. I'm i'm not moaning. I even paid for mine a couple of times just because I didn't want to do it out of principle.

00:20:17.44
Keith
Lazy mother. What the hell you talk? What are you paying somebody?

00:20:20.35
Buddy
Um, I'm just tired of it, man.

00:20:22.29
Keith
Damn.

00:20:22.46
Buddy
Mowing seven days a week for a few years. I mean,

00:20:24.87
Keith
Well, I'll tell you what, if you're interested, you can pay me to look at it. That's it.

00:20:28.69
Buddy
yeah, I, I watch it grow.

00:20:28.75
Keith
Sit down and drink a beer and watch it. That's Watch it grow.

00:20:31.28
Buddy
up Yeah. But, uh, Yeah, so yeah, I mean, heat, it's coming on, and and I just was doing an extended forecast look for a customer coming up for a few things they got going on, and shit, it looks like the whole United States is either going to be normally hot, you know, as hot as it normally is, or above average, so I noticed me and you, Keith, we're we're looking at it's gonna be about normal for us.

00:21:01.86
Buddy
And then Jeremy is gonna be above average heat out there. So get ready Jeremy, it's coming your way.

00:21:07.12
Keith
Yeah, I mean.

00:21:09.31
Buddy
It's gonna get hotter.

00:21:12.13
Jeremy
Dude, if it gets any hotter, my credit score is going to take a major hit.

00:21:18.05
Buddy
Oh yeah, man. I mean, shit. My last heat, you know, bill, heating bill or or actually not heating bill, electric bill.

00:21:24.90
Keith
bill.

00:21:26.00
Buddy
Yeah, the electric bill was, you know, starting to jump up. So, Damn, I'm not looking forward to next month. So let's just put it that way.

00:21:33.06
Keith
i think it's I think it's reaching global because my mom just got back from a trip to Europe. She went to England and Scotland, Wales, places like that.

00:21:46.18
Keith
And ah when they were in Wales, she said it was in the 90s. And she said they don't even have air conditioning there. like Like they don't need it normally.

00:21:56.86
Keith
You know, and they were like, wow, this is, this is like insanely hot, which I've never been there and i don't know anything about the weather of Europe. I always thought it generally stayed like around the, you know, the seventies and eighties, but she was talking nineties in, in Scotland, which is North of England.

00:22:13.33
Buddy
well must i check into that.

00:22:13.59
Keith
So.

00:22:14.93
Buddy
and i I know most of when I was in New York, nobody had air conditioners. you know Heaters are a thing, but air conditioners aren't. and ah just The humidity is high in New York City. so I remember one hot day, I just looked at the X and I was like, hey, we're going to go buy an air conditioner.

00:22:27.15
Keith
Right.

00:22:33.66
Buddy
I don't give a shit what costs.

00:22:33.96
Keith
Yeah. we're Where I grew up in New Jersey, which is right there by New York. If you had central air, you were rich. Nobody had air conditioning. And we, you know, we, we weren't rich at all. We were kind of poor. We had a very, very small house. And, you know, we had, we had the window units, you know, and we didn't even buy new ones. Like we just had whatever was available on, you know, at a garage sale.

00:22:56.54
Keith
And we would just stick them in the window for a month or so, you know, and and take it back out again. That's what we had when we lived up north. But here in the south, like in Texas, you can't you cannot live without central air.

00:23:02.58
Buddy
Yeah.

00:23:07.60
Keith
um I mean, don't think a lot of people who are listening to us understand, but without central air, youll you can die.

00:23:07.95
Buddy
It's a,

00:23:11.93
Keith
People die of heat in the winter and in the summertime.

00:23:13.40
Buddy
yeah, it's definitely life and death. Yeah. and

00:23:15.48
Keith
Right. Right.

00:23:16.58
Buddy
And growing up, i but one of my favorite things to do, and I, you know, talking to my dad later on in life, one of his favorite things to do was to go out to our, both of our grandparents, you know, my great grandfather and grandfather,

00:23:29.94
Buddy
we We would go out there and summertime, it'd be, you know a hundred some degrees outside, hot in the, in the house. They just had fans. They didn't have air conditioning units. And so they slept outside, you know, one under a tree, you know, just outside.

00:23:45.43
Buddy
So not weird. It was camping to me, you know, I had fun, but looking back on it, I was like, how the hell, you know, did people get by without air conditioning, but, you know, I guess harder people, you know,

00:23:57.20
Keith
Right. Right. And you know, no, sure. And you know, we also lived differently back in those days. Um, and I'll tell you a couple of, couple of things. Uh, one, if you've ever seen in movies and maybe even in real life, you've seen the houses that are old, old houses, you know, a hundred years and plus, and they had, you can walk in, you can, and your front door is a big double door. And if you walk in, you it was a giant hallway that went all the way to the back of the house with more doors.

00:24:25.71
Keith
And everything else was off to the sides, including the stairs going up. Well, that was because there was no air conditioning. We didn't, we didn't have air conditioning back in those days. And that was a natural form of cooling them of the house. So do we opened the front, open the back, the the breeze would blow through and it would suction just from natural suction, it was suction the the other rooms out into that area and and you know flow out.

00:24:47.27
Keith
It was all part of a way to ventilate your house. We also had something that I would be willing to bet most people don't even know this. And I was blown away when I found this out, that just not even just 100 years ago, maybe even less, maybe 80 years ago, and then all the way back, there was something, we didn't sleep through the night.

00:25:08.03
Keith
There was something called first sleep and second sleep. Have you guys ever heard of this?

00:25:13.11
Buddy
Yes, I have. I think my gri my grandparents actually practiced it. So yeah.

00:25:18.13
Keith
Did they really? Okay. So you, when, when the sun, you know, because you worked when the sun was out, that's, that was the natural way of doing things. And when, when the sun goes down, you were inside and most people, as the sun went down, they would eat dinner and then they would just go to sleep.

00:25:33.58
Keith
They, you know, they might hang around for a little while and talk and, you know, read a book or something, and then they would go to sleep. Then a few hours later, three or four hours later, they wake up in the middle of the night when it was nice and cool and they would stay up and they would enjoy each other's company, read a book, you know, do a little bit of this, a little bit of that, walk around their property.

00:25:50.13
Keith
They would enjoy the cooler night air. Then they would go back to sleep until the sun came back up again. First sleep, second sleep. It's, it's the look at, if you don't believe me, I know it's crazy. If you don't believe me, look it up. It is, it's, it's actually true.

00:26:02.34
Keith
So, you know, and the South in the United States was, was nothing. The South was, was, uh, was a ah cesspool, was a mosquito pit basically.

00:26:13.25
Keith
And when air conditioning, hold on, I turn off my alarm. When air conditioning was invented, when air conditioning was invented, central air,

00:26:25.84
Keith
It changed everything. Houston was became this tiny little settlement into this massive, massive, massive city. i mean, air conditioning is why we have places like Houston and Dallas and, and San Antonio. Now I know these are old cities that go way, way back, but they didn't really, people didn't populate them like they do now until we were comfortable enough to be able to live in them.

00:26:49.16
Keith
You know, everybody wanted to be up North. It was cool.

00:26:53.65
Buddy
Yeah, and I mean, siesta, that was a thing as well. You know, when when like right now, the heat of the day, definitely, definitely come in.

00:27:01.88
Keith
Oh yeah. Right.

00:27:04.63
Buddy
And I remember going out, you know, and I grew up on one side of a dairy farm, the other side a horse farm. And so, you know, grandfather had the dairy farm, so we would go out and and you know, go out and do all the chores.

00:27:17.90
Buddy
And like you said, a lot of times we were up before, you know, three, three, four in the morning, uh, when it was cool to do certain tasks, you know, you fed a lot of the animals in you did a lot of things and then ah started milking the cows, you know, doing, you know, most of the labor stuff and winter time is a little different schedule, but, uh, summertime definitely.

00:27:27.16
Keith
right

00:27:39.45
Buddy
And then about 10 o'clock, 11 o'clock, um, You know, you're out after you, you, you work in the dairy yard, uh, you're with the cows and stuff. Then you go over to the garden and pick some garden, bring it in about, about 11 o'clock or so until five or six, man, until you had to go out and, uh, milk again.

00:28:00.03
Buddy
We were inside, uh, just taking a nap, you know, just chilling.

00:28:04.12
Keith
Oh, yeah.

00:28:05.04
Buddy
You just, uh, and they had a swamp cooler. So, uh, kept the ah house very, very, uh, comfortable.

00:28:11.84
Keith
Oh, I had a house with a swamp cooler while back. Yeah, that's that's wild, man.

00:28:16.12
Buddy
So,

00:28:16.30
Keith
A little humid makes everything a little so little soggy, but that's nice.

00:28:19.32
Buddy
yeah I mean, yeah, your sheets are soggy, your pillows soggy, things like that. But yeah, and so, I mean, even to this day, like, you know, in the summertime, and I tried to get everything done early and then come in because it's just, it's not for me, man.

00:28:34.40
Keith
No, no, no, no.

00:28:34.58
Buddy
I just, it's a bad practice, I guess.

00:28:37.12
Keith
And right now, because of this heat wave, which is what we're talking about tonight, this heat wave right now, I'm coming in at around two ish and come and then going back out around five ish and I'm doing inside stuff.

00:28:47.69
Keith
And sometimes the inside stuff is just taking a nap. Sometimes I'll just sit back and I'm already, I already worked four or five, maybe even six hours by then, you know, so I'm already, I'm, um I don't mind a nap in the middle of the day if I can pull it off. Now I know I have a different type of a job than other people have, so I'm able to do this, but You know back in the day when I was running crews ah on different job sites and stuff, the extreme heat weeks, I would have them come in instead of eight. I'd have them come in at five or six and have them leave at two or three, maybe four, you know, whatever. I'd have them leave early just because they they could do more work when it's cooler. It's safer.

00:29:22.60
Buddy
Yeah. And, and, you know, the army has these weird, uh, you know work rest cycles during the heat and stuff. Sometimes you can only, you, you can go out and work 15, 20 minutes and then you have 40 minutes of rest, you know, in the shade and and rehydration and stuff.

00:29:39.14
Buddy
So, um, it's a thing, you know, um, we basically, um,

00:29:40.92
Keith
That's cool.

00:29:48.37
Buddy
you know you manage You manage the heat the way you can. and I've been at what they call heat casually. I've gone down with heat stroke. I was a wrestler back you know back in the 80s and 90s when you used to wrap yourself up in these plastic suits and get into a 110 degree wrestling room and just, hell, I passed out as a kid several times. you know

00:30:12.44
Keith
That's crazy, man.

00:30:12.71
Buddy
so I'm more susceptible to these heat injuries now.

00:30:13.40
Keith
Well, I'm fat, so I am very susceptible.

00:30:15.35
Buddy
so I really have to watch Well, since sit ever since I've gotten out of shape, um you know, got in my body changed a little bit, i got a little older stuff.

00:30:19.38
Keith
It's just, you know, body weight.

00:30:29.07
Buddy
I really have to watch it hard because it's it's something that I can't get hydrated enough. You know, I can't drink enough electrolytes. I can't drink enough water.

00:30:39.72
Buddy
So I have to really watch and and manage it, you know, and not do something stupid.

00:30:39.82
Keith
Wow. Wow.

00:30:44.45
Keith
i can I can tell when my body's getting close because i'll I'll start to get jittery and maybe a little dizzy. um And i'll ah so I'll be sweating profusely. And ah I can just tell in my head, i can maybe I'm starting to get little bit headache in the back.

00:31:03.32
Keith
And I know it's time to go where it's cool. And sometimes that's just a matter of getting in front of a big blower fan, you know in my shop and just sitting down, having a vape and putting blower fan on me, listening to some music for 15 minutes. And it just really cools me, especially if you're sweaty. it just cools you right down.

00:31:17.66
Keith
Sometimes I actually have to go indoors and and get some of the AC. I had a buddy years ago, we were in electricians many, many years ago, and I was in a truck and he was in a truck, his own, his own area. And, uh, we just happened to meet up because we were real close to our art areas and So he drives up and pulls up next to me. It's in it's in Texas. We're talking middle of summer, you know, 106, 107 degrees, extremely hot.

00:31:39.77
Keith
And he's like, man, don't, I don't, were we were parked right next to each other, you know, ah driver door to driver door kind of a thing. And he's like, man, I don't feel good. I'm like, what's wrong? He's like, I'm just, I'm like dizzy. I'm sweaty. I'm im i'm dizzy. I'm um nauseous.

00:31:53.16
Keith
I'm like, ah well, maybe you maybe the heat's affecting. He's like, well, I'm not even sweating. I stopped sweating like an hour ago. I'm like, dude, that's not good. you You shouldn't have stopped sweating. So we yeah i actually called them ambulance and they came out there and they put them on an IV and everything. He was like right on the verge of heat stroke, which is deadly.

00:32:08.97
Keith
If you don't, you know, watch it.

00:32:15.98
Keith
And that's your cue to talk.

00:32:21.59
Jeremy
And I was muted.

00:32:26.23
Jeremy
ah did it again.

00:32:26.52
Keith
you were You know why you're muted? I'm going to tell you why you're muted. Because I tried to mute myself, but my clicker little mouse didn't go far enough up and it it clicked yours off of mute.

00:32:37.12
Keith
Then I clicked mine on, went back to yours and clicked yours back to mute.

00:32:37.10
Jeremy
Damn you, Keith.

00:32:40.30
Keith
So I actually, actually muted you and you didn't know that I muted you. See, I have control.

00:32:44.73
Buddy
i

00:32:45.65
Keith
I can mute you. got Right now you guys are muted. Nobody can hear you. Nobody cares about you. yeah just Go ahead. Talk. Say something. You can't say shit because I got you muted. Wait a minute. Did you just unmute yourself?

00:32:56.13
Buddy
Yes.

00:32:56.86
Keith
Oh, I didn't know you had that capability. I thought I was in control.

00:33:00.68
Buddy
Yes, I do.

00:33:00.68
Jeremy
I can do it too.

00:33:03.24
Keith
Okay.

00:33:03.93
Jeremy
And now the listeners don't, now the listeners don't get a you know, he muted himself sound bit.

00:33:04.23
Keith
Well, you can't.

00:33:04.71
Buddy
that's very cool

00:33:05.60
Keith
Can you? get

00:33:11.64
Keith
Oh, no, you're going to get that. You're going to get that.

00:33:13.57
Jeremy
ah

00:33:14.35
Keith
That's still going to happen.

00:33:16.13
Jeremy
Yeah. So, uh, heat stroke is a medical emergency. Uh, and there's a couple of different types of, um, you know, heat injuries. Um, and in the military, it's a huge, huge deal. and Um,

00:33:28.54
Jeremy
over, you know, many, many years, there have been many unnecessary and and completely preventable heat related deaths ah that have happened, and they have control measures in place, especially when you're in a training environment.

00:33:45.32
Jeremy
um But there's a lot of different things that you can do on a daily basis to and a lot of people think, well, I'm thirsty, I need to drink some water.

00:33:57.04
Jeremy
If you're thirsty, It's already too late. You are dehydrated. So what do you got to do? You got to drink water on a regular basis throughout the day, regardless of you're doing physical exercise or not. But it's not just ah drinking water.

00:34:13.46
Jeremy
You have to consume foods and sometimes supplement your water um to actually make the water do what it's supposed to do. So there's a couple different ways to do that.

00:34:25.98
Jeremy
um There are nutrient-dense foods. There's calorie-dense foods. And there's different packets you know of hydration powders and whatnot you can add to your food.

00:34:37.19
Jeremy
But you got to drink water and you got to be able to maintain a balanced level of electrolytes in your body. If you have too much water, that's also dangerous. That's called hypernatremia.

00:34:49.21
Jeremy
That means that you have consumed enough water where you have flushed out the necessary nutrients within your body. And no matter how much you drink, you still keep feeling thirsty. You keep feeling thirsty and eventually you could be susceptible.

00:35:03.47
Keith
Wait, that's a thing? Okay, didn't that.

00:35:05.47
Jeremy
That's a thing. Yeah. That's a, that's a very big thing.

00:35:09.03
Keith
whoa

00:35:09.94
Jeremy
Yeah. I mean, you got to think about it. Our bodies, our bodies are made up of almost we're, we're big sacks of water and meat.

00:35:11.62
Keith
okay i didn't know that

00:35:16.44
Jeremy
That's what we are. So, but,

00:35:19.68
Buddy
70% of your body water. Yeah. Yeah. seventy percent of your body is water yeah

00:35:22.90
Jeremy
It's like 70, 80%. I think for some people who are chunky like me, maybe a little bit more.

00:35:26.31
Buddy
yeah

00:35:27.91
Jeremy
um But, you know, it's, if you drink,

00:35:32.72
Keith
I'm about 98.

00:35:34.99
Jeremy
About 98. So there's a bunch of different things that you can do um because it's not about the water that you drank that day.

00:35:47.37
Jeremy
You know, it's, it's about the water and the the liquids that you've consuming for days prior to maybe you're getting ready to do an event or, you know, you're not feeling up to par.

00:35:58.14
Jeremy
It's what you've been doing the day, the few, the days prior. And sometimes even weeks, especially right now with this stank hot as it is outside. And, you know, a lot of people, I and know someone personally, I don't think I've ever actually seen her drink water.

00:36:13.16
Jeremy
I only see her drink ah soda, Pepsi to be specific, but soda is not water. um Sweet tea is not water.

00:36:23.62
Jeremy
you know Coffee and tea is not water. Yes, they're made with water. They have water in them. but they are not beneficial to your body the way that water is.

00:36:34.17
Jeremy
um and of course, you know, as a, yeah, they are, they are all diuretic now as a, as a person who believes in preparedness.

00:36:37.43
Buddy
I think they're all diuretic.

00:36:44.50
Buddy
Yeah.

00:36:45.14
Jeremy
And if you're in an emergency situation, of course have to have the skill and knowledge on how to purify and clean your own water once you find it and procure it. Um,

00:36:55.88
Jeremy
But even after you've boiled and, you know, done all the things you need to in that kind of situation, sometimes water, you just, it just gets going to taste freaking gross. going to taste gross sometimes.

00:37:08.54
Jeremy
There are ways you can dress it up. um And even when you're at home in a non-emergency situation, if you have an issue with maintaining but the proper level of electrolytes, you can get electrolyte powders.

00:37:24.35
Jeremy
I've talked about Element before, LMNT. That's my personal favorite. um They have a whole bunch of different kinds. They have liquid IV. um They have a product called Drip Drop. Drip Drop is actually one that I cannot drink ah because it comes from Gatorade.

00:37:40.00
Jeremy
So Gatorade makes Drip Drop. I can't personally drink it. ah had I tried it before. Horrible heartburn. Like right right off the bat just gives me awful heartburn. Um, and then they've got a couple different other brands, you know, and you can find them at Walmart. You can find them on Amazon.

00:37:59.07
Jeremy
There's a thousand different brands, but I would tell you to look at the, um, look at the ingredients. Element is good for me, uh, because it has a lot of salt. It has a lot of magnesium and has a lot of potassium.

00:38:12.29
Jeremy
Those are the main things that I'm looking for. The taste itself. That's a side note. Um, but a lot of these hydration drinks, you have to look at them because they do have sucralose. They do have a lot of different, you know, sweeteners and by-product and stuff like that.

00:38:26.83
Jeremy
So pre-hydration.

00:38:28.82
Keith
And sodium.

00:38:30.05
Jeremy
Oh yeah. Sodium. And that's, again, that's a big myth about sodium. Um, most people don't take in enough sodium in their life. Um, and it taking in the proper amount of sodium is a huge, huge deal. That's why they, you know, i don't know if you guys remember salt tablets. They used to give them to us in the military a long time ago.

00:38:51.42
Jeremy
um And they're just literally hard little, you know, salt pills.

00:38:53.15
Buddy
Oh, yeah.

00:38:57.38
Jeremy
That's what they were. um But you got to have salt. And if you don't want to put salt in your water or you don't want to try one of these hydration packets, start salting your food. Not a tremendous amount.

00:39:09.17
Jeremy
Just salt your meal a little bit, you know, and it will have an effect over time, but you do have to have more salt, not less. um And, you know, in regards to salt versus hypertension, there's multiple different sciences out there.

00:39:26.42
Jeremy
You should do what your doctor suggests to you and how you feel like you need to do um But I have found that ever since I started salting my food more many years ago,

00:39:38.97
Jeremy
I don't get heartburn the way i used to. I don't have those stomach problems that I used to. Because if you don't have na kind enough the right kind of sodium in your gut, in your gut biome, you're producing the wrong kind of stomach acid.

00:39:54.72
Jeremy
So you got to have some salt. It doesn't have to be a tremendous amount, but you got to have it, you know. So prehydration is just as much.

00:40:04.06
Keith
So, um, real quick, I'm looking here at the, uh, um, I'm looking here at the UH hospitals website.

00:40:06.17
Jeremy
Go ahead.

00:40:11.63
Keith
It was just something I just quickly found while you were talking. And, um, Following along with what you were just saying, it says here that electrolytes are essential minerals that keep the body functioning smoothly. The most important electrolytes in your sweat are sodium and chloride, the same ingredients that make up table salt, along with potassium, magnesium, and calcium.

00:40:33.79
Keith
You lose these minerals through sweat, mostly salt. Water alone is not, water alone will not replenish the salt loss, and this is where powders and tablets electrolytes can be helpful.

00:40:46.75
Keith
So yeah, they're they're just they're saying exactly what you're saying.

00:40:46.85
Jeremy
Yep.

00:40:50.46
Jeremy
Yeah. And, and again, um if you're just, if you're just only able to get water, Let's say you don't have the ability to get some salt or get those things.

00:41:02.27
Jeremy
If all you have is water, then you have to control your intake of water. Now I've been in situations where I've been so thirsty. I've literally chugged back to back, like between six and eight water bottles, just slammed them down because I felt like I was going to die.

00:41:18.87
Jeremy
However, ah as soon as that water, oh it's not, it's a terrible, terrible idea.

00:41:21.11
Keith
That can't be good.

00:41:25.07
Jeremy
um And once that water started to hit my gut, It just, I mean, it just all hit at once and it was, you know, just, it was terrible. um But the hyponatremia is, again, this is kind of a, hyponatremia can be caused by drinking too much water.

00:41:48.86
Jeremy
So the definition, it is a condition where the sodium level in your blood is too low. It is a common electrolyte imbalance caused by excess ah buy an excess of water in the balllet body relative to sodium.

00:42:03.32
Jeremy
So ah can lead to swelling, brain cells, um and a whole bunch of litany of things. You start to feel like your fingers are getting puffed out and your toes are getting puffed out and you feel like you're all swole up.

00:42:16.77
Jeremy
So too much water intake flushes out the required amount of sodium and other electrolytes in your body. So that's what that is. So again, if you don't have the ability to add electrolytes or salts, you have to control the intake of your water.

00:42:36.10
Jeremy
um You have to sip it. You have to control yourself from slamming it down, especially if you have a limited supply. um But it is easy to just chug back a whole you know bunch of water all at once because you're thinking, well, it's just water.

00:42:51.16
Jeremy
Well, once that hits the guts and you swell up and you got to piss every two seconds, yeah All what you're doing is you're just flushing. You're just flushing all of what you need in your body out. That's what happens.

00:43:04.82
Keith
Right, right. You know, and I'm changing shirts, like I said, and easily two times a day, sometimes three, just because of my shirt is absolutely soaking wet and they're covered in salt.

00:43:15.26
Keith
And that can't be good. Like when they dry out, you can see like before you've been put in the wash, you'll see they're all white. They're covered in sodium.

00:43:20.01
Jeremy
Oh, yeah.

00:43:20.95
Buddy
Yeah, that's ah that's a good sign, though, that you're getting the salt you need. youre You are losing it, but that's if you didn't see the salt rings when you swept profusely like that, then that's ah something bad. so

00:43:34.95
Jeremy
Yeah, i I can remember many times being in the field during the summer, um and you're doing a lot of different things.

00:43:35.03
Buddy
You're doing the right things.

00:43:42.73
Jeremy
And iowa went ah i ended up just – I would take my T-shirt off, and I would just be wearing my uniform top underneath or take the T-shirt off and just have my uniform top. And when you get done doing whatever it is that you're doing, your shirt's completely soaked.

00:43:57.44
Jeremy
I would strip down and let myself kind of air dry and you can just see the uniform hardening up from all the salt that's built up in the shirt and you just kind of, kind of shake it loose and get it all out of there. And it's, uh, yeah, it's, it's, it's an interesting thing to see.

00:44:20.39
Buddy
All right.

00:44:20.66
Keith
Buddy, you're on.

00:44:22.03
Buddy
yeah I was going to say, everyone's silent on me here.

00:44:24.56
Keith
well and Well, no, he because you know because he's we're on a delay, he's purposely stopping like that to to let us know that it's our time to talk.

00:44:30.79
Buddy
Gotcha.

00:44:31.63
Keith
Yeah.

00:44:31.73
Buddy
Okay. So, I mean, we've we've talked a little bit about the different, you know, ah guess... things that happen to you like heat stroke and heat, you know, exhaustion and things like that.

00:44:45.35
Buddy
What are some of the signs and symptoms that come along with them? And I'm just going to throw, you know, it's, I could get into the, work you know, basically nitpick each one and get way into the weeds with each sign and symptom of each of these. But basically there's, there's a few that cross, you know, across the board.

00:45:07.82
Buddy
You know, if you start to cramp up, And what it is when you cramp, it's called a heat cramp, you know, a Charlie horse, some people call it, you know, what it is basically, is ah it's the loss of salt. You don't have enough salt in your system to go to your muscles to make them work like you're you're supposed to.

00:45:24.65
Buddy
And you're sweating, you're losing, you know, all the salt, you're losing your electrolytes, you're losing the water that's in your system and you're getting low on, you know, that 70, 75% water that you're supposed to have for your body.

00:45:41.44
Buddy
And so you start to cramp up and, you know, one of the the treatments for that is, ah you know, and this goes across the board to it, you know, all these different heat injuries.

00:45:53.44
Buddy
You go in and you get out of the heat, number one. you You try to get into a cool area. If you don't have, you know, air conditioning or a fan or anything, you know, you might be in a field environment or way out in the in an austere environment you want to get underneath the tree um get out of the direct heat the direct sun

00:46:15.13
Buddy
Loosen up your clothing. You want to, you know, take, if you have, sometimes they tell you to go ahead and take your, you know, clothes off and get down to where you can, you know, your body can breathe, take off the, but you would definitely want to take the restrictive clothing off or loosen up. You know, if you have boots on, ahead and take them off or loosen them up.

00:46:35.21
Buddy
Pants, roll the pant legs up. If you got a long slew shirt, roll them up a little bit or take it off. And then if you have some extra water there, go ahead and just douse yourself with water, you know not necessarily pour it on you.

00:46:48.36
Buddy
um If you have a stream next to you, you can you can you know put it on and you know it's called a water bath or you know if you don't have a lot of water, you can take a canteen or a liter water or bottle of water or whatever and pour it over your head and your neck area.

00:47:05.92
Buddy
if you're If you have a some ice with you or ice packs, you go ahead and put those into your your crotch area and underneath your arms. You try to get to where your major arteries are to try to cool those areas down because that'll take the blood flow through your blood, through your whole body, and it'll help cool it down quicker.

00:47:25.47
Buddy
So that's one of the quick ways to go ahead and start cooling yourself down. Jeremy said it earlier, don't start gulping down water. You take sips.

00:47:37.09
Buddy
If you have electrolytes, go ahead and add some electrolytes to it and sip it. If you do have the heat cramps, you want to massage your muscles. Hey, if you have an IV bag with you, the best thing to do is hook up that IV or or you know get that person to a level of care that's higher.

00:47:57.18
Buddy
If you're starting to cramp up, your body's starting to You know, show the signs that something's not right. And you can you can treat cramps yourself or you can go to a higher level care.

00:48:08.98
Buddy
And. Pretty much all all the heat injuries. the underlying theme is get, to get the hell out of the, um, the sun, get get out of the heat, you know, get fanned, um, go ahead and get cooled off with water, something cooler, take the restricted clothes off again. And, uh, you start the rehydration process immediately, not by, you know, down in a bunch of water. Cause it's, it's, it's going to be worse on you, but take sips.

00:48:39.12
Buddy
Um, something that I was going to add to that, that I carry with me now that I learned it's it's a thing is ah like the Himalayan sea salt or Celtic sea salt is really good.

00:48:50.58
Buddy
So I carry a little bit of that with me in my rucksack and my bug out bag. And so when I do have water, I can add a little bit to it. And like I said earlier, I am very susceptible to to heat cramps or to heat injuries and stuff because I've had them in the past. So I'm always, I mean, it's crazy how much electrolytes and and element.

00:49:12.86
Buddy
And I've tried everything that I carry with me at all times. So, you know, just keep that in mind. You know, you want to rehydrate as quickly as possible and cool down. So, and the best thing you can do is get to the AC if possible.

00:49:27.79
Buddy
So.

00:49:28.67
Keith
You can get, um like on Amazon places and different sources, hotel, restaurant sources, ah companies that source those places. You can get those little tiny packets of salt um that, you know, come with food or this and that. You see them at McDonald's and, you know, fast food places.

00:49:45.11
Keith
You can get big old boxes of those ah for very, very inexpensive. They last forever, basically. And get a box of those and keep them with your your kits. Um, it's a good way of doing it.

00:49:55.84
Keith
The, honestly, the best way for you to get sodium salt, um, with you in a, in a survival situation is to actually have it in your kit. and Now you can do some other things, uh, salt water, like from the oceans, you cannot drink it.

00:50:12.14
Keith
You cannot drink salt water directly. It is very bad for you. What you can do though, however, is you can boil it. And you boil it down until evaporates to nothing. What's left in the pan is like a dusty stuff. That's sodium.

00:50:24.37
Keith
You can, you can, you know, scrape that up, put it into something, lick it, whatever you want to do. That's a way of getting yourself salt in in a survival situation. Also, if you're by a saltwater area, like a beach or ocean, a bay, um, there's things like kelp, uh, seaweed that you can actually eat.

00:50:39.87
Keith
Uh, I don't know about mineral deposits. I'm not, i don't know anything about that sort of stuff. I guess I'd have to learn. But there are mineral deposits out there in the wild, actual rock in the ground that animals like deer and other animals, they lick them.

00:50:54.64
Keith
and And that gives them there their minerals, their electrolytes, and their salt. ah so I would suggest being very, very careful what you walked to the ground and start licking or putting rocks in your mouth.

00:51:04.85
Buddy
Thank you.

00:51:05.21
Keith
You could be getting all kinds of diseases. So I would be very careful about that. But that is a source. i mean, that's where animals get their stuff. Now, also animal blood. So if you kill them if you kill ah an animal, boil its blood, eat the blood with it, that that also has a lot of sodium and electrolytes in it.

00:51:22.08
Keith
You have to cook it, though, because you could get a disease if you don't. So you got to be careful with that. Also, the bones um of, ah like if you kill something, the bones, you can boil those up.

00:51:32.39
Keith
and the but And the bone and the marrow that's in the bone, and even the... the forget what they're called, but like the little ah tendons or connective stuff that goes on bones, you can boil that in there too. That all has sodium in it as well, which you can, you can save, you can save that liquid and you can drink it you know, in a survival situation until you get some.

00:51:51.73
Keith
And there are also some plants out there and things, but, but like purslane, we have actually, we have purslane all over the property and Ronda actually grows it. um It's like a weed, but it actually has a lot of sodium in it.

00:52:03.15
Keith
um But the best, the very best way is like what Jeremy said, get some electrolyte powders. It can be expensive, but you can find cheap ones or just get some of those little baggies of of sodium, you know, or cheap, just cheap sodium stuff and put them in your kits and you don't need a lot. So that stuff will last you a long time.

00:52:22.37
Keith
that's That's pretty much all i got for that.

00:52:24.30
Jeremy
Yeah, i I know people who, um, yeah, I don't know if you've ever seen them, but people will have, um, like an old, like straws, they get plastic straws and they'll fill them with salt or sugar, burn the end, you know, burn the other end.

00:52:39.72
Jeremy
And basically you've got a ready to go thing made of, you know, salt and sugar and whatever, but they'll, they'll also do, and I'm sure you've seen them for sale.

00:52:43.73
Keith
Ooh, nice idea. i like that.

00:52:48.60
Jeremy
They're called honey sticks where you basically fill a straw with honey and seal off the ends. And now you've got portable honey. Um, but I've seen some people who as an alternate, natural alternative will, uh, take the, basically a little bit of salt, little bit of sugar or honey.

00:53:06.11
Keith
Dude, did you just start speaking dog like out of nowhere?

00:53:10.50
Jeremy
Well, yeah. So that that, that is, um, that is one of the dogs that is the large male.

00:53:13.40
Keith
I heard I heard i heard your voice turned dog for a second. I'm just saying.

00:53:19.51
Keith
OK.

00:53:20.18
Jeremy
Uh, his name is, yeah, his name is ammo and, uh, pretty sure.

00:53:20.94
Keith
Just making sure.

00:53:24.06
Keith
Make sure you don't have some kind of lichen disease.

00:53:26.38
Jeremy
He's, I'm pretty sure he's got autism. Um, so yeah,

00:53:31.45
Keith
There's no such thing as autistic dogs, dude.

00:53:33.54
Jeremy
I, I disagree with you. I, I would have 100% disagree with you. These are Malinois mixed with German Shepherd.

00:53:40.05
Keith
Mm-hmm.

00:53:42.15
Jeremy
So it's the perfect mix of autism and ADHD rolled up into one giant package.

00:53:42.19
Keith
Ooh.

00:53:47.55
Jeremy
So Um, and but they would, they, as a, uh, uh, natural alternative, they took then that stuff and they added to their water rather than having chemicals or whatever. But, you know, it's just, uh, it's a balance, uh, it's to balancing act.

00:54:05.16
Jeremy
Um, and a lot of people, they just, you know, you tell them, Hey, you got to put some salt in your food or salt in your water and they freak out. Yeah. there's no reason to freak out. You know, a little bit of salt goes a long way in your body. A little bit of sugar goes a long way in the body.

00:54:21.47
Jeremy
and And if you're keeping, and if you're someone who like me who has ah hypoglycemia and stuff like that, trying to balance your blood sugar and keep that, you know, even keel, um that does require a balancing act. You do have to take in more caloric.

00:54:37.51
Jeremy
ah you yeah You have to have more caloric intake. You have to take in sugars. You have to take in salts. And that's really, it's, if you learn what it feels like, your your body will tell you, you know, hey, something's up, you need to probably have a snack, you know.

00:54:52.34
Jeremy
So, but yeah, it's it's definitely a ah balancing act. And then rehydrating after an event, after physical work or exercise, um ah lot of people don't do that um properly either.

00:55:08.28
Jeremy
Because like, you know, for instance, I've gotten back and working out in the mornings and I'm just drenched. I'm dripping. And um course I learned in the army not to slam the water. So if you are post exercise or a post, you know, doing a lot of hard work and you grab some water and it's nice and cool, your instinct is just to chug that sucker down and, you know, fill your body because you think, you know, I'm going to I'm going to get this water in me and I'm going to feel great.

00:55:39.28
Jeremy
the The exact opposite will happen. You will, you will make yourself sick. um

00:55:45.88
Buddy
It's like a like a springboard there.

00:55:48.53
Jeremy
Yeah.

00:55:48.86
Buddy
It's like it hits the bottom of your head.

00:55:49.05
Jeremy
Yeah. And especially, especially if you've been doing a whole lot of hard work, um you may feel, you know, hot, sweaty and dehydrated. What, what also is happening is your stomach as your body starts to leach out sweat and leach out those electrolytes, your stomach actually starts to tighten up.

00:56:10.76
Jeremy
It's a natural, you know, defense mechanism with the body that starts to tighten up and it starts to squeeze down on itself. And all of a sudden you start putting in a gallon of water and your stomach is forced to re inflate. All of a sudden you can cause yourself injury and it hurts to chug a bunch of water after being really, really physical.

00:56:31.96
Jeremy
Um,

00:56:32.71
Buddy
Yeah, usually you throw it up.

00:56:34.70
Jeremy
Yeah, it's happened. It's, ah it's happened to me. Um, I have taken in way too much water all, you know, all at once and just felt like all of a sudden you just, it almost feels like getting punched in the gut.

00:56:47.78
Jeremy
Um, because your, your stomach literally just reinflated all of a sudden. Um, and it's, it's just a really uncomfortable feeling. um I tell everyone, even though I know they're insanely popular, um i tell everyone myself personally to stay away from sports drinks like Gatorade.

00:57:09.57
Jeremy
ah What are some of the other ones out there? um yeah All of those kinds of drinks. I tell people personally, stay away from them. You can get better absorption and better ah quality within powdered mixes than you can with all the crap that you find in those drinks. There's some of them are better than others.

00:57:30.58
Jeremy
You know, Gatorade started out as a ah salty drink that was given to the Florida Gators. Um, you know, a long, yeah, long, long time ago because dudes were going down left and right from drinking just regular straight water all the time.

00:57:40.33
Keith
football team.

00:57:47.66
Jeremy
So they came up with this mixture and, you know, it became extremely popular.

00:57:48.40
Buddy
Yeah.

00:57:51.76
Keith
I thought, I thought that but but ah but Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, came up with the water.

00:58:00.25
Jeremy
it's the water from a glacier. It's always cold.

00:58:02.78
Keith
The water from the glacier.

00:58:05.85
Keith
Awesome. I'm going to watch that tonight, man. I just love that movie. It was great.

00:58:10.94
Jeremy
Well, they're coming out with the the new happy Gilmore movie.

00:58:13.12
Keith
My mom said, my mom said, my mom said, my mom said, my mom said, my mom said, just love it.

00:58:15.88
Jeremy
Yeah. Yeah.

00:58:18.58
Keith
ah is

00:58:20.13
Jeremy
Yeah. That's ah that's a pretty good one, but yeah. um You know, Gatorade, of course it was invented in 1965. Yeah. They had to come up with some sort of, you know, method in order to replace the electrolytes. These guys were chugging back then. I'm sure it was probably good.

00:58:38.60
Jeremy
um You know, good, clean kind of drink without a bunch of BS. But the stuff that's in it now, if I, if I even have a, a simple sip of Gatorade, I get horrific heartburn instantaneously.

00:58:52.25
Jeremy
I don't know what is in there that, that causes it.

00:58:53.29
Keith
Years.

00:58:56.27
Keith
i was going to say, yeah, I i was, was going to say years ago, I had a crew, uh, in, in Texas, we had a crew and we were giving them Gatorade, big old jugs.

00:58:56.55
Jeremy
I don't know.

00:59:05.12
Jeremy
Mm-hmm.

00:59:05.75
Keith
Like we filled them up in the morning. We made them for the guys and all day they would drink out of it. And then we had our insurance people come through and do like uh, an evaluation of, of, um, what they call that, dangers and and risk risk management type of thing.

00:59:20.14
Keith
And they told us that we have that we have to stop doing that or we have to be very careful or get them to sign stuff because the ingredients in Gatorade are fine and they're good and it's tasty and it helps you. But if you drink too much, it can be very, very bad for you, especially with the sodium and the oils and the different things that they have in there.

00:59:38.62
Jeremy
Yeah.

00:59:38.72
Keith
And, you know, these guys are hot. They're working. They're just guzzling that shit down.

00:59:42.63
Jeremy
Yeah. Yeah. I, when I, when I, used to be able to drink it and I can remember as I would be drinking it, I was always wanting more because I couldn't, it never hydrated me ever.

00:59:56.72
Jeremy
um And, you know, stuff has changed over the years. When I was a kid, I'm sure it was probably somewhat of a normal drink, but now with like all the different dyes and all the other crap that they everything just it's like high fructose corn syrup just trash man um but they've got a bunch of different brands um body armor is one of course you know gatorade uh all sport is another one they've got one called good sport um you know there's a there's a litany of sports drinks out there i personally just tell people like i can drink uh powerade

01:00:08.58
Keith
gums and oils and it's got a lot of stuff in it, man.

01:00:38.26
Jeremy
um But I won't, you know, I can i can get better results from the powdered mixes.

01:00:46.13
Buddy
It gives headache.

01:00:47.52
Keith
um I do a lot of, um not do a lot of, I only drink crystal light ah here at the house. It's the only thing I have in the refrigerator to drink that. And of course water and then, you know, the occasional beer, ah coffee, stuff like that. But, but crystal light is what I normally drink. And I started looking into, you know, the ingredients and all that. It's not actually that good for you. it might be sugar-free, but it's not that ah actually that good for you.

01:01:10.14
Buddy
yeah gives me a headache

01:01:10.18
Keith
It's got aspartame in it and

01:01:10.63
Jeremy
Dude, Crystal Light has never been good for you.

01:01:15.25
Keith
Well, see, I just figured sugar-free and it tastes so wonderful. And I just keep drinking it and I'm feeling good. But the truth is it's bad for your gut. It's bad for a lot of things, actually.

01:01:23.14
Jeremy
ah

01:01:23.95
Keith
You you have to be careful what you drink.

01:01:24.28
Jeremy
Dude, my mom drank get her Crystal Light like it was going out of style, man. That, and remember Tab? Tab the soda?

01:01:33.56
Buddy
I was about to say cab.

01:01:33.74
Keith
Oh, yeah.

01:01:35.15
Jeremy
Oh my gosh, dude. It was it was either Crystal Light, Tab, ah or what was the other one?

01:01:36.32
Buddy
You

01:01:38.35
Keith
Tab. i don't remember tab. Tab, tab, tab. What is tab?

01:01:42.63
Jeremy
It was like an orangey kind of drink. um

01:01:45.45
Keith
Tab is a soft drink, right?

01:01:47.09
Jeremy
Yeah, Tab was a soda.

01:01:48.29
Keith
Oh, okay.

01:01:49.07
Jeremy
It was, it was it was a yeah, Tang.

01:01:49.26
Keith
ah A soda, yeah.

01:01:49.43
Buddy
talking Tang? Tang?

01:01:51.51
Keith
Right, right, right, right.

01:01:53.56
Jeremy
yeah a Tab was advertised as a diet ah diet soda that was, yeah, it was like it was supposed to be good for you.

01:01:58.41
Buddy
The first Diet Coke. Yeah.

01:02:02.05
Jeremy
My mom chugged that crap. And now years later, she's like, do you remember when I used to drink tab? And I was like, oh, you mean the poison you ingested for about 15

01:02:12.31
Keith
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

01:02:16.01
Jeremy
But now, you know, South Texas, you grow up with Dr. Pepper. She loves Diet Dr. Pepper. And I'm like, mom, I'm like, mom, you gotta stop.

01:02:22.37
Buddy
Oh, God, yes.

01:02:24.86
Jeremy
You gotta stop. And I'm no one to talk because I was addicted to Mountain Dew. And i you know,

01:02:31.37
Keith
Whoa, that stuff's bad, man.

01:02:33.19
Jeremy
Oh, I know, dude, but it's so fucking good.

01:02:34.72
Keith
Rock gut right there.

01:02:36.74
Jeremy
It's so good.

01:02:37.71
Keith
Oh, it is. It is. And, you know, and I, and I did, i did myself in with, with Dr. Pepper, but I lived in Texas. I went ah Dr.

01:02:44.20
Jeremy
Yeah.

01:02:45.08
Keith
Pepper crazy and eventually just got to the point where I just really can't drink it anymore. It's like, it's just too much for me now.

01:02:50.63
Jeremy
I do love Dr.

01:02:51.20
Keith
I don't drink sodas anymore though.

01:02:51.35
Jeremy
Pepper.

01:02:52.40
Keith
So when I have a soda now,

01:02:53.26
Jeremy
I try...

01:02:54.88
Keith
it's like ah It's like a dessert to me. It's like something special. something It's like ah an occasion. and I never have.

01:02:59.86
Jeremy
Yeah.

01:03:01.10
Keith
<unk>s just I make it like a special thing. out eating, and I'm like, oh, I'm going have a root beer tonight. It's going to be awesome.

01:03:08.48
Buddy
Oh, yeah.

01:03:08.76
Keith
I enjoy Yeah.

01:03:08.75
Jeremy
a yeah yeah I um i had to and know every ever so often I still drink them if I get a hold of and I can only drink Mountain Dew when it's like wicked cold if it even starts to turn warm in any sort of fashion I can't ah can't even finish it when but yeah it's just something about that first couple of sips of Mountain Dew that just touch the soul but like

01:03:27.61
Keith
That's beer for me. I can't. and Beer has to be icy cold.

01:03:37.07
Jeremy
I don't know what it is. Like if you're eating hot pizza, cold, cold Coke, just good old fashioned Coke goes so good with pizza. I don't know why it just, it's just something, something about it.

01:03:50.37
Keith
I heard Coke's changing their formula again or something about that.

01:03:52.82
Jeremy
Yeah. They're going, uh, they're going back to cane sugar. Um, they're trying to, yeah know, they're trying to, to, um I guess they're trying to get basically,

01:03:56.90
Keith
Oh, okay. Okay. Real sugar.

01:04:04.66
Jeremy
ah Department of Health and Kennedy off of their case because, you know, Coke, and I've said this before, if you have soda in in Europe and you have soda here, very different like totally different things, completely, 100% completely different things.

01:04:11.70
Keith
Right.

01:04:20.16
Keith
Totally different.

01:04:23.73
Jeremy
um But, you know, people, i mean, again, i've gotten I've said it, I know people who physically do not drink water at all. And they're like, well, I drink, you know, this. I'm like, but you've got to drink some freaking water, person. Like, get get get some clear fluid, not vodka, into your system.

01:04:44.91
Jeremy
Stop drinking that crap. Like,

01:04:46.98
Keith
Vodka is mostly water, isn't it?

01:04:49.26
Jeremy
i've I mean, yes.

01:04:50.73
Keith
yeah looks It looks like water.

01:04:52.24
Jeremy
I, yes.

01:04:55.15
Jeremy
And quality vodka doesn't have a smell or a taste, but no tequila is poison.

01:04:55.65
Keith
So does tequila.

01:05:00.69
Jeremy
I'm not allowed to have tequila. Yeah. I'm not allowed to do that. Um,

01:05:04.45
Keith
Well, tequila makes it close follow ah makes her clothes fall off, so, you know.

01:05:06.93
Buddy
I was about to say, that's a country song, isn't it?

01:05:08.19
Jeremy
you know, well, see, that's the thing. Tequila only has two sides. It's either that one where the clothes fall off or like me, you turn into a violent hose beast. And um that's that's what tequila does to me. I can't drink it.

01:05:24.83
Jeremy
I'm not allowed to. And there's the dogs.


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